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| ThePower |
Posted on 05-08-2008 19:30
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Oakland Hills, Michigan.
As you won last time, do I get first 4 picks then? |
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| Shaggy |
Posted on 05-08-2008 19:43
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Away you go!
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| Viper |
Posted on 05-08-2008 22:13
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Everybody should have the opportunity to play 2 frames (inc 6,7,8,9) who would be in the 2nd set. No one has yet mentioned that nobody should be allowed to play twice within the 1st set of 5 which would open the doors for all players to be available to play again in the 2nd set (including those that are there already)
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Posted on 05-08-2008 22:22
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It has been mentioned when it's been said that no player should play twice in any one set . .
. . I can see the argument against it but it's too open to abuse and the cons outweigh the pros
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| ThePower |
Posted on 05-08-2008 22:44
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[quote]Shaggy wrote:
I think we said no players between 1-16 one between 17-32 and any three others. Id add to that players that havent won a major and we are good to go.
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Robert Karlsson (Swe): Ranking 22
Hunter Mahan (US): Ranking 34
Woody Austin (US): Ranking 36
Camilo Villegas (Col): Ranking 56
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Posted on 05-08-2008 22:53
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I was looking at three of those..... Cant get into the site for runners and ranking lists at work, so it'll have to hold til I get home I am afraid.
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| Shaggy |
Posted on 05-08-2008 23:08
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Actually I can.
I'll go:
Stuart Appleby 30
Paul Casey 41
Sean O'Hair 37
Chad Campbell 58
Best individual player score wins.
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| Statto |
Posted on 06-08-2008 06:22
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IMO you should not be allowed to play a player twice in the first 5 frames....this way it means any of the squad that turns up on the night have the potential to play twice....I would sooner have it that all players that are playing on any night have to play once before anyone plays twice....that way the captain can play his best form players from the night twice to maximise the win potential....
No doubt someone will want to pick a hole in this, but I don't see what is so complicated....if you have to leave early you will probably only play once...if you arrive late there is still the potential to play twice.... |
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Posted on 06-08-2008 06:57
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Well for once I agree, but it seems we are in the minority.
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Posted on 06-08-2008 07:48
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Statto wrote:
IMO you should not be allowed to play a player twice in the first 5 frames....this way it means any of the squad that turns up on the night have the potential to play twice.....
No it doesnt - what if your squad that turns up on the night consists of more than 5 players?
And another question to throw into the mix (because as said before, the Leagues format doesn't affect me):
Lets say for arguments sake, the away team turns up with 3 or 4 players.
If you have to play all your players once before they play again twice and the home team write their players down first, albeit in a 2x5 frame format or a straight 10 frame format, does it mean that the players are allowed to play in the first set for a second time, or would those frames become claimed by the home team, plus after the home team has written the order either all in advance or for the 2nd set, the team of 3 can handpick which players their 3 or 4 play against.
This is what I mean by the benefit of having a small amount of structure.
I don't actually understand Deutch's comment regarding that any player taking part should have the chance to play twice when the result cards which were distributed by himself were strictly numbered as 2 sets of 5 with no apparent option to do anything but substitute players from the first set to make way for oncoming players?
But whatever happens, someone needs to get this sorted and proposed for the Winter Season or you'll definately be back to playing 7 frames and possibly losing teams if what Longshanks posted is accurate. |
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Posted on 06-08-2008 07:55
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It's getting too confusing now for the sake of it . .
What's wrong with the following:
Two Sets of Five Frames
No player plays more than once in any one set
Home Team Picks 1st and then the Away Team list their players ensuring no-one plays the same player twice
It's that simple and certainly better than 7 single frames and certainly the most common ground solution . . Fair enough it doesn't allow for selections based on complete in-match analysis but it ticks the majority of boxes . .
. . it's not 101% perfect but if there was a perfect format then we'd have found it by now as the whole country would be using it!
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Posted on 06-08-2008 15:11
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In matches where both teams have less than 5 players available - all unplayed frames will be declared void. |
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| Faz Da Fisher |
Posted on 06-08-2008 20:32
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longshanks wrote:
60 seconds per shot is a long time. 2 minutes per shot would mean that even if someone dished up it could take 16 minutes. I think part of the problem is players taking too long over one shot. In that instance the ref or secretary should be able to speak to the other team secretary and then perhaps agree to give the player 60 seconds from that point to play the shot.
probably thge best way to enforce a minute rule with the addition of a 2minute ruling on foul shots
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| ThePower |
Posted on 06-08-2008 20:35
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Golden wrote:
What's wrong with the following:
Two Sets of Five Frames
No player plays more than once in any one set
Home Team Picks 1st and then the Away Team list their players ensuring no-one plays the same player twice
It's that simple and certainly better than 7 single frames and certainly the most common ground solution . . Fair enough it doesn't allow for selections based on complete in-match analysis but it ticks the majority of boxes . .
Spot on. Let's get this proposed to Mark.
Is Spud in agreement and who is going to make a proposal & second it etc? |
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| Faz Da Fisher |
Posted on 06-08-2008 20:56
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Golden wrote:
One thing that hasn't been mentioned too much lately . . The whole situation regarding a draw and the fact that there has to be a winner?!
Why?
2 sets of 5 players only play each player once in each set but can play again in the second set when there is no player clashing if the score is 5 - 5 then a bonus frame is added to decide a winner people who have played twice will not be allowed to participate in the bonus frame
STRICTLY NO BONUS POINTS
Edited by Faz Da Fisher on 06-08-2008 20:59
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Posted on 06-08-2008 21:25
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fazz4eva wrote:
2 sets of 5 players only play each player once in each set but can play again in the second set when there is no player clashing if the score is 5 - 5 then a bonus frame is added to decide a winner people who have played twice will not be allowed to participate in the bonus frame
STRICTLY NO BONUS POINTS
But what if you only have 5 players. With that idea it means you have to give away the bonus frame.
I think if the score is 5-5 after 10 games then both teams have earnt the draw. If you haven't played well enough in the 10 frames to win it already then a draw is what you deserve. |
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Posted on 06-08-2008 21:36
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fazz4eva wrote:
2 sets of 5 players only play each player once in each set but can play again in the second set when there is no player clashing if the score is 5 - 5 then a bonus frame is added to decide a winner people who have played twice will not be allowed to participate in the bonus frame
And the player in the play off if both teams only have five will be who exactly?????
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| Faz Da Fisher |
Posted on 06-08-2008 21:40
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either get another player or chose the player from the players you got
or fuck the whole idea and simply call it a draw i just thought of a shit idea to stop you gimps nit picking and toying over the rules and the idea of a draw:hanged:
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Posted on 06-08-2008 21:48
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think a good number would second the proposal of 2 x 5 but there has to be some time frame on the matches. another 11.30 finish last night so it is getting a joke.! |
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Posted on 06-08-2008 21:56
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I think anyone reading this thread afresh from start to finish will be as confused as hell.
There are obviousley pros and cons to all the formats in different peoples eyes.
I had already submitted my proposal to Mark yesterday with Sass as my seconder, proposing we keep the format we use for the Summer League, for the Winter League.
No Bonus points.
I also stipulated that secretaries be given freedom of team selection, as and where. Judging by the debate on here, this varies massively in peoples eyes, so I have sent an ammendment to Mark saying the Following:
With regards to my proposal, may I suggest that we (The League) first vote on whether or not to keep the 10 frame format from the Summer.
If that does get voted in, may I suggest that we then have a separate vote on the format of the 10 frames, as from continued debate on the website, it seems there are pros and cons to every version.
Perhaps we could have three different formats drafted up, then have a vote on which one to keep.
For Example:
Format A:
The 10 frames are treated as two sets of 5. With no one player permitted to play twice within those 5 frames.
Format B:
10 Frames treated as two sets of 5. With no one player permitted to play twice in the First set only.
A player may play twice in the second set of 5.
Format C:
No restrictions on where players play. Secretaries allowed the freedom to play their players where they wish.
10 Frames treated as one block of 10 frames.
Sounds fair enough right?
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