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Cue-Balls with spots!!
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| Rainbow |
Posted on 22-06-2008 04:45
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Does anyone know the rules regarding spotted cue-balls being used instead of a plain one? We (The Farley Loyalists) played at Suzy Q's on Tuesday, against The Goodfellas. When asked to change the cue-ball for my game, i was told 'no', we are at home & this is our cue-ball!
Surely if a request to change the cue-ball to a normal one is asked it should be allowed. I will admit, that some of our team seemed to like the bloody thing, is that not right Chaslington, but I have never played with a spotted-white, and was not to impressed being told I had too!
Any thoughts or comments gents?
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| Chuckie |
Posted on 22-06-2008 06:45
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Rainbow wrote:
I will admit, that some of our team seemed to like the bloody thing, is that not right Chaslington,
Rainbow
Yes Paul, I did enjoy the spots on the ball and found it helped me with particular shots. However, the cue-ball should be white. I feel that when you requested this to be the case in your two games your wish should have been granted. It's not has if they're short of balls there!
Taking my shots looking cool, my self-esteem?s growing tall.
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| Billy |
Posted on 22-06-2008 09:55
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Cant believe you still have a gripe about this. Why should your request be granted?. It was our home game and we all play with the spotted white so what you want doesnt come into it. Stop moaning. |
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| Sass |
Posted on 22-06-2008 15:47
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I'll moan. I don't like a spotted cue ball. I find it incredibly offputting and I'd refuse to play with one. It's not as if every other team in the league plays with one or it is in the spirit of the game. If you guys want to be different that's fine but it's wrong to enforce this against anyone who doesn't share that view. |
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| the-shark |
Posted on 22-06-2008 15:49
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i think if your really focused on your match a few spots on a white ball shouldnt matter, would rather have that than play on a crap table that rolls off or has dead cushions, |
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| Sass |
Posted on 22-06-2008 15:49
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In fact I have found something that should solve the problem . . .
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| Sniper |
Posted on 22-06-2008 17:10
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When i joined i didnt like the cue ball but to be honest i dont mind either ball and the dots are not offputting if you are playing your game.
I know what my views are on it but im not here to make enemies and especially against my team.
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| Sniper |
Posted on 22-06-2008 17:14
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Chuckie wrote:
Yes Paul, I did enjoy the spots on the ball and found it helped me with particular shots.
Yeah certain shots when you managed to keep the ball ON the table - lol  |
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| Cyber The Crucifier |
Posted on 22-06-2008 17:19
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hi a bit of topic !
when i played for the sas
we used spots and stripes
surely does it really matter its a game of pool
if u cant pot a ball then dont play pool
I couldnt give a shit what was on the ball
ok the home team has an advantage
but they r at home
so its there preference
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 22-06-2008 20:15
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I have heard from several people why the SAS used to play with stars and stripes.
Why do the Goodfellas chose to play with a spotted cue ball? If it is to piss off opponents it is clearly working.
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| Fat-Dart |
Posted on 22-06-2008 20:41
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Here we go again..
When we first decided we'd like to use the spotted white, I checked it out with Mark Halsey and he confirmed there was nothing in the rules to prevent us using it, as the only stipulation mentioned is that it must be 1 7/8 inch, which it is.
Once we'd started using it, some opponents liked it, some didn't, but once we'd decided to start using it, it's not fair on others who have played with it without moaning about it to chop and change at the request of fussy individuals.
As The Shark quite rightly points out, you don't get a choice of table when you play away, so why should the cue ball be any different? Pubs have very variable tables, some of which don't actually comply with the stipulations on size etc which are defined in the rules, yet they are allowed to continue. Our ball doesn't break any regulations, yet people like to moan about it. At least at ours you know the tables aren't like playing on a crazy golf course, unlike some. You just have to contend with some little red spots.. big deal. If you're any good at pool, they won't make a blind bit of difference.
Oh and Rainbow, you played 3 frames on Tuesday (including the Secretary match) and won all 3. Obviously the spots put you off your game terribly!
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| Chuckie |
Posted on 22-06-2008 21:07
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Speedy Gonzales wrote:
Chuckie wrote:
Yes Paul, I did enjoy the spots on the ball and found it helped me with particular shots.
Yeah certain shots when you managed to keep the ball ON the table - lol
I wanted to see the different reactions to the cue ball landing on the carpet at 300mph with a variation of top, bottom, left and right spins (sometimes combined). 
Taking my shots looking cool, my self-esteem?s growing tall.
Losing eyes this game is cruel. I do my thing playing pool.
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 22-06-2008 21:18
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Fat-Dart wrote:
Here we go again..
When we first decided we'd like to use the spotted white, I checked it out with Mark Halsey and he confirmed there was nothing in the rules to prevent us using it, as the only stipulation mentioned is that it must be 1 7/8 inch, which it is.
Once we'd started using it, some opponents liked it, some didn't, but once we'd decided to start using it, it's not fair on others who have played with it without moaning about it to chop and change at the request of fussy individuals.
As The Shark quite rightly points out, you don't get a choice of table when you play away, so why should the cue ball be any different? Pubs have very variable tables, some of which don't actually comply with the stipulations on size etc which are defined in the rules, yet they are allowed to continue. Our ball doesn't break any regulations, yet people like to moan about it. At least at ours you know the tables aren't like playing on a crazy golf course, unlike some. You just have to contend with some little red spots.. big deal. If you're any good at pool, they won't make a blind bit of difference.
Oh and Rainbow, you played 3 frames on Tuesday (including the Secretary match) and won all 3. Obviously the spots put you off your game terribly!
Cheats lol
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| Fat-Dart |
Posted on 22-06-2008 21:25
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Coneycueist wrote:
Cheats lol
I sincerely hope that was supposed to be a joke. |
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| angles |
Posted on 22-06-2008 21:41
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Sass wrote:
I'll moan. I don't like a spotted cue ball. I find it incredibly offputting and I'd refuse to play with one. It's not as if every other team in the league plays with one or it is in the spirit of the game. If you guys want to be different that's fine but it's wrong to enforce this against anyone who doesn't share that view.
Fully agree with you sass.
The one thing that everyone that has posted on this thread have failed to realise is the fact that a white ball with spots all over it is in fact a PRACTICE ball not a TOURNAMENT ball so should not be allowed,
But again in saying that with my tongue firmly in cheek.
This type of ball I Think is used in three cushion billiards.
So my answer to this ball being used is an astounding NO to being used in matches, But by all means you can used it for practice as that is what they are meant for |
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 22-06-2008 21:54
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Fat-Dart wrote:
Coneycueist wrote:
Cheats lol
I sincerely hope that was supposed to be a joke.
I couldn't care one way nor t'other to be honest. Was just curious as to why you would make a decision that would clearly cause controversy and was wondering what the benefits were.
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| Fat-Dart |
Posted on 22-06-2008 21:58
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angles wrote:
Sass wrote:
I'll moan. I don't like a spotted cue ball. I find it incredibly offputting and I'd refuse to play with one. It's not as if every other team in the league plays with one or it is in the spirit of the game. If you guys want to be different that's fine but it's wrong to enforce this against anyone who doesn't share that view.
Fully agree with you sass.
The one thing that everyone that has posted on this thread have failed to realise is the fact that a white ball with spots all over it is in fact a PRACTICE ball not a TOURNAMENT ball so should not be allowed,
But again in saying that with my tongue firmly in cheek.
This type of ball I Think is used in three cushion billiards.
So my answer to this ball being used is an astounding NO to being used in matches, But by all means you can used it for practice as that is what they are meant for
It's not a practice ball! Practice balls have spots arranged on ONE side, that look like a target, so it shows you where to hit the ball square on to achieve the various spins. Each time you hit the thing, you have to move the 'target' to the front, otherwise you won't hit the spots. Our ball has 6 spots, the same as the ones used for the televised World Championships. They were mainly brought in to make it easier for commentators to talk about spin etc but are certainly not practice balls. Ask anyone who's played on the Worlds, if you want confirmation.
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 22-06-2008 22:05
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Fair enough. I am sure the commentators in Suzys are very grateful.
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| Fat-Dart |
Posted on 22-06-2008 22:13
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Coneycueist wrote:
I couldn't care one way nor t'other to be honest. Was just curious as to why you would make a decision that would clearly cause controversy and was wondering what the benefits were.
It's not about 'benefits'. Fact is, we've decided to use the ball and to remain fair to all our opponents, we can't allow people to pick and chose which ball they want to use. Likewise, if a team came to us and said they didn't like our table and asked to use another one for the match, we'd say no to that too. It's home advantage, so it's not the away team's choice. Yes, we have other cue balls available but we also have other tables and it's our choice to use whichever we like, not theirs. |
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 22-06-2008 22:20
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So to be 'fair' to all opponents, they all have to use it? Surely that implies you would be given some an unfair advantage if they don't have to use it and therefore it is an advantage to those who are used to it and practice with it?
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