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Division 1 (Week 10)
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| ThePower |
Posted on 29-01-2008 17:45
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We haven't had some predictions for a while, so I'll kick off with some this week....
Hot Shots v Unpreds
Big win and vital one for the Unpreds last week and that should be enough for a while to keep them heading in the right direction. Last week Hot Shots seemed to signal a return for the Clarkes and from the innocent onlooker a keeness to defend their crown. They finished off the Rack Pack with the match poised at 2-2 and then were all seen beaming as news fell around Rileys that the Ego's had crashed and burned to a defeat. Home advantage tonight and Hot Shots now within spitting distance of the Ego's, home win. 5-2.
Eagles v Bloodhounds
1st league defeat of the season last week maybe not a surprise to some as Cuemasters are dangerous when firing on all cylinders. Eagles rarely do back to back defeats. Bloodhounds now have two horrible games to finish off the 1st half, tonight and then Hot Shots to come in week 11. A 6-1 loss last week was a big blow for them and the icer is now officially preparing to place some icing on their relegation cake. 7 points adrift of safety could easily turn into double figures come the start of the second half. Ego's to win 6-1.
Eden v Rack Pack
Both sides would have been smiling at the Bloodhounds loss last week, and there is now daylight of 7 points between both these sides and the final relegation spot. The January transfer window was one of the most successful in Eden's history and that should lift spirits at the Farley. Rack Pack are resilient, have held their own in the top flight but like the Eden have struggled this winter campaign for regular periods of form and individual consistency all the way down the order. Has 4-3 either way written all over this fixture.
Coney v Propeller
Think I am correct in thinking that the Coney have never beaten a Propeller side? Recent results for the Coney have been a surprise, a thumping by the Cuemasters and then turning up short v the Legion in the league cup, and again last week v the Patriots. All of sudden they have been dragged back to the fringes of being labelled relegation possibilities. The Coney are probably more interested on next Monday's QF clash with Propeller. So tonight is a dress rehearsal for a big night next Monday at the Elmer. Will Paul Maguire rest key players ahead of next Monday's K/Out Cup encounter as the Prop's best chance of silverware this season appears to lie outside of the league campaign. If both the Pope's play tonight and the Coney don't cope with them, it's all over rover. Prop to seal a 4-3 win.
Brom Cuemasters v Patriots
The first leg of what is surely going to be a battle for 4th spot this season. Cuemasters hot from toppling the Ego's last week and with home advantage must be slight favourites. The Patriots are not known as good travellers but overall have sneaked more 4-3 wins than any side in Div 1 this season. Cuemasters are flying at the moment and a 5-2 to them seems a fair prediction.
Ex-Drillers v SAS
1 point bye win to the SAS. So much hope before the curtain was raised on their first season in Div 1. That hope now seemingly dashed.
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| berty |
Posted on 29-01-2008 18:24
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To be honest with you all the Coney are in somewhat of a mini crisis struggling for players turning up with 5. At the moment I feel like the only reason we are carrying on is to not leave another bye in the calendar. Will do our best to honour that but at this stage it is 50/50 at best. i was really hoping to not go out with a damp squib and with our tails between our legs. lets hope we can do that starting tonight where it looks like we have 5 again
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| Golden |
Posted on 29-01-2008 18:38
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Calling Saxton a damp squib is just plain rude . . |
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| the-shark |
Posted on 29-01-2008 19:35
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good summary alex always nice to read forcasts for the upcoming tues games. we are a few players short tonight from the heroics of last weeks win so with shanks at football and another one of our players girlfriends giving birth on monday( great news) were scratching for players a bit tonight! as for other results i will go
hot-shots 4-3 the unpredictables
red deer eagles 6-1 bloodhounds
farley eden 5-2 rat pack
coney cues(if short) 2-5 the prop
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 29-01-2008 20:05
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I going to travel to this one Berty, just sent you a text..
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 29-01-2008 20:21
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Hopefully my grammar will improve on the way.
Edited by Coneycueist on 29-01-2008 20:35
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| berty |
Posted on 29-01-2008 22:07
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good stuff we have 6 including a broken shoulder!!!! |
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 30-01-2008 06:58
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Coney 3 - Prop 4. Well played the prop. Could have been better at 3- 2 up although good go into a game with at least 6 
Edited by Coneycueist on 30-01-2008 07:00
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| andye |
Posted on 30-01-2008 15:15
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had a belter last night... rde 5 - bh 2 |
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| the-shark |
Posted on 30-01-2008 16:44
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bromley cuemaster 3-4 patriots
deserved win for the pats last night, we was missing some key players but no excuses, was 2-0 then 2-3 down and lost the final frame shootout. |
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 30-01-2008 17:25
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To what extent do people believe we should enforce the rules, by the way? Should it be the letter of the law each time or should there be allowance for common sense and an element of sportsmanship involved too?
The reason I say it because at 3-2 down the Prop's number 6 was given two and left in a position where he was very clearly foul snookered. He surveyed his position for a while before saying something like 'pick up the white?' to our ref who in turn picked up the white for him and he cleared up. No problem in my eyes. As he potted the black however he was criticised by his team and a few congregating spectators from other teams who were saying he should have said 'foul snooker?' to the ref first and as such should have been called a foul for not doing so. My argument would be that every single person watching knew he was fouled snookered. He communicated to the ref to make that point but in a way that didn't follow the perfect terminology. Isn't it getting a bit pedantic to call 'two shots' in that instance? This particular player is a quality pool player but I get the feeling does not play as much as others in the team so almost certainly forgot to call it correctly because he does not play as often as some. I would guarantee that I would not take two if someone did that against me. I would rather lose than win through a petty technicality. Is that naive?
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| waynie1973 |
Posted on 30-01-2008 17:39
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Rules are rules mate.
Same thing happend to us last week and it ended up being a re-rack, to be honest its not hard calling for a foul snooker is it?
What would have happend if one of your lot had done it ? do you think Gary Swetts would have let it go .. I dont.
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| the-shark |
Posted on 30-01-2008 17:41
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i could understand it in profesional circumstances but not on a tues night!l as long as everyone including the ref knows what the player means and intends to do then fair play in my book,once i was foul snookered and told the ref i was taking a free ball hence i pointed my cue at the intended ball and 3 shots later when i potted the black a member of there team said loss of frame because i didnt properly nominate the intended free ball. tues should be a social evening and enjoyable with it and to win is always nice but if players are goin to be penalised for a petty technicality then that will create a bad vibe that will spoil any night. |
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| berty |
Posted on 30-01-2008 18:00
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Well played the Prop who remain our bogey team. We should have beaten them and had chances to but it just didnt happen so well done.
in regards to the rules argument
come on guys whoever disagrees with Coneycueist on this one needs to remember this is a pub pool league. I would feel sick to the stomach for example if I called this "foul" against a nieve div 5 side who managed to struggle their way to a knockout cup q/f only to lose because of that. We have accepted changes over the years and embraced them and rolled with them. In this case as far as I am concerned could be used as a direct case in point why the interest in trhis league is dwindling. All we need now is the 60 second rule and it will all kick off big style. Luckily enough in this instance dispite saxton getting barracked for not calling it to be honest I have known Paul Adam for years and would have insisted he carry on without penalty regardless of the consequences and that I mean. The sad fact is that There are a few teams that would have used their superior knowledge to their advantage in that situation. I am sure rules are rules but no one around that table was in any doubt as to what paul was doing and that is good enough for me F*ck the rules
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| berty |
Posted on 30-01-2008 18:10
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as an additional point. I would just like to say that as a team who are doing their best to remian together this season under very trying conditions, to try honour their fixtures to avoid another drop out in Din one to avoid further byes. if we would have lost because of the reverse decision last night I would have quit their and then. I agree with rules is rules principal but in this case if common sense would not have prevailed it would have been the tipping point for me. I would be interested to hear peoples opinions. |
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| Cue_Ball |
Posted on 30-01-2008 18:18
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The refs response to Paul should have been if you pick up the white now it is a foul. Just use it as an opportunity to educate rather than let it go, otherwise people will never learn. You can't pick and choose which rules to follow, but sportsmanship to help people out is just as important as the rules. |
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| waynie1973 |
Posted on 30-01-2008 18:26
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Cue_Ball wrote:
The refs response to Paul should have been if you pick up the white now it is a foul. Just use it as an opportunity to educate rather than let it go, otherwise people will never learn. You can't pick and choose which rules to follow, but sportsmanship to help people out is just as important as the rules.
Spot on.
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| Golden |
Posted on 30-01-2008 18:32
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Precisely . . It's a foul . . Simple.
Ask yourselves this question . . Do any of you out there not bother taking two shots when the cue ball goes in?
Cue ball goes in = Foul
Not calling a 'foul snooker' and then picking up the white = Foul
The problem you have got is that your referee picked the white up for him upon his request so he's just as much to blame as Paul not calling the foul snooker in the first place.
I have seen Gary Swettenham call a foul against, funnily enough, Paul Adams for calling a foul snooker and then not nominating a particular ball . . I am sure Gary didn't want to call a foul and I am equally sure that both teams knew what ball Paul was going for but it is a foul all the same and it turned the entire match . .
If it's getting to a point where people are not calling fouls because it's a 'pub league' really need to consider why they are bothering in the first place and whether you'd be better suited hacking about in Division Four where the white goes off the table, you have a laugh and joke about it, hug and kiss and then carry on like it never happened . .
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| Cue_Ball |
Posted on 30-01-2008 18:35
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Golden wrote:
you'd be better suited hacking about in Division Four where the white goes off the table, you have a laugh and joke about it, hug and kiss and then carry on like it never happened . .
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Posted on 30-01-2008 18:35
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I just realised what I'd wrote  |
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