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Cue-Balls with spots!!
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| Sass |
Posted on 23-06-2008 16:17
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I believe it was used in one world championships because the makers of the ball cut a deal for them to do so.
The minute they do they same with Goodfella's then I'll accept there is a place for it in Croydon League!  |
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| Shaggy |
Posted on 23-06-2008 16:33
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ThePower wrote:
Shaggy wrote:
It will be used in the World Championship.. If its good enough for them it is surely good enough in Croydon.
As far as I understand, the ball is used in the televised stages only at the Worlds to enhance viewing and make it easier for the commentors. If you can tell me when or if we will ever see a Croydon pool league or cup game televised then I'll accept this type of cue-ball has a place in this league....
Its not out of the realms of possibility, we were looking to get live streaming for the Croydon Singles League.
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| Spud |
Posted on 23-06-2008 16:35
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Playing away from home, you play with the home teams equipment.
Be it table or balls.
If it's not breaking the rules, then crack on.
The Blue Anchor (When they had a pool table back in the day) had "Hamlet" plastered over every ball.
The Forum use them weird balls with the ripple effect on them.
The SAS used to use the spots and stripes as mentioned. . . . .
Doesn't really make a blind bit of difference in my opinion.
It's a novelty which, once your used to it, you wouldn't even notice.
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Posted on 23-06-2008 16:38
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So if the Goodfellas insist we leave our own cues at home and pull off some old pub cues from the rack at Suzy's - then thats okay? Because we 'must' accept to play and use the home teams equipment? Home equipment argument. Load of Bollocks.....
Whats to stop the Farley Loyalists insisting the Goodfellas play on one leg with with one eye closed in the return game. Why? Because the Loyalists are the home team. Ok the Loyalists will do likewise but the difference being they have been practising playing on one leg and with one eye closed. It would be argued as a result they will now hold an unfair advantage. Cue ball with spots no difference.
I think the issue here is not only the use of the spotted cue-ball but the Goodfella's insisting it 'must' be used because 'we' are 'at home'. Fair requests to change the ball for the odd frame have been refused and you can understand why this is now being highlighted and is looked upon in some quarters that the Goodfella's will gain an unfair advantage. I think a request from the opposition team or individual player to alter the ball should be taken onboard and permitted. A change of ball happens in mostly any other ball sport if there is an issue with the ball. Home advantage does not come into it.
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| Sass |
Posted on 23-06-2008 17:01
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Spud wrote:
It's a novelty which, once your used to it, you wouldn't even notice.
I think that's the key thing - 'once you're used to it'. Goodfellas obviously are. The rest of the league are not. That is the advantage pure and simple.
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| Witt |
Posted on 23-06-2008 17:03
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The Forum 'B' have a set of balls with swirls on, but have changed them to a 'normal' set of red and yellows straight away if an opponent asks, even though they have accustomed themselves to those balls. It's all down to sportmanship versus gamesmanship. |
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| Shaggy |
Posted on 23-06-2008 17:04
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The difference is the ball is legal.
Its like an away team playing a football match and saying we don't like Adidas ball, so must play with an umbro.
As long as the ball fits the leagal requirements then in my opinion there can be no argument.
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Posted on 23-06-2008 17:06
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Witt wrote:
It's all down to sportmanship versus gamesmanship.
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| ThePower |
Posted on 23-06-2008 17:08
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Shaggy wrote:
The difference is the ball is legal.
Its like an away team playing a football match and saying we don't like Adidas ball, so must play with an umbro.
As long as the ball fits the leagal requirements then in my opinion there can be no argument.
And if the away team raised a complaint about the Adidas ball, who would then make the final decision to change the ball? |
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Posted on 23-06-2008 17:19
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The referree, but ultimately its the home team that have to provide the equipment as in ball, and the referree would only dismiss it if it breached the rules.
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| JugglingSpence |
Posted on 23-06-2008 17:27
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My feelings on it are, yes, The Goodfellas use the spotted to gain an advantage- why else would you change from the norm? But the key thing is it is only the away player that can hand them that advantage, if you let the spots bother you then you will have problems but if you ignore them they get no advantage.
Personally, I like it and would be happy to play with one every week, I don't think it will happen though judging by this thread!
How about putting it to a website poll? |
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| Sniper |
Posted on 23-06-2008 21:05
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Sass wrote:
Spud wrote:
It's a novelty which, once your used to it, you wouldn't even notice.
I think that's the key thing - 'once you're used to it'. Goodfellas obviously are. The rest of the league are not. That is the advantage pure and simple.
I guess if people feel strongly enough this will be brought up as a proposal at the AGM.
Sass are you chipping in against us because we have priority over you on that table???  |
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| Sniper |
Posted on 23-06-2008 21:09
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JugglingSpence wrote:
Personally, I like it and would be happy to play with one every week,
Simple solution there then, come sign for the Goodfella's.  :
Could be the Ronaldo speculation of Croydon Pool - lol  |
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| Cyber The Crucifier |
Posted on 23-06-2008 21:29
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I know i have made some posts about this matter
but its a cue ball who cares
it really doesnt bother me theres more to life |
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| Billy |
Posted on 23-06-2008 21:29
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Sniper wrote:
Sass wrote:
Spud wrote:
It's a novelty which, once your used to it, you wouldn't even notice.
I think that's the key thing - 'once you're used to it'. Goodfellas obviously are. The rest of the league are not. That is the advantage pure and simple.
I guess if people feel strongly enough this will be brought up as a proposal at the AGM.
Sass are you chipping in against us because we have priority over you on that table???
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| JugglingSpence |
Posted on 23-06-2008 22:18
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Sniper wrote:
JugglingSpence wrote:
Personally, I like it and would be happy to play with one every week,
Simple solution there then, come sign for the Goodfella's. :
Could be the Ronaldo speculation of Croydon Pool - lol
Chaos wrote:
but its a cue ball who cares
That's why they play with it, it is a considerate cue ball that is in interested in how the team is feeling!!! |
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| angles |
Posted on 23-06-2008 23:30
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Using a cue-ball with spots is an unfair advantage as the good fellas are the only team in the league that have this type of ball.
So obviously they use it all the time when a team visits them for a league game,The opposition never played with one before are obviously not used to it. Hence Unfair advantage to Good Fellas.
If other teams had a chance of using the same type of ball for practice and league matches at their own venue then there would be no problem.
But as stated before the rules clearly state a regular white-ball must be used,A white-bal without spots as this clearly would not then be a white-ball but a white-ball with spots.
So the answer is GET RID OFF THAT STUPID SPOTTED THING CALLED A CUE BALL. |
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| Fat-Dart |
Posted on 24-06-2008 00:54
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angles wrote:
If other teams had a chance of using the same type of ball for practice and league matches at their own venue then there would be no problem.
They do have the chance... They could buy one, like we did.
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Posted on 24-06-2008 02:28
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Just out of curiousity why did the goodfella's start using one ?
because i can |
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| Rainbow |
Posted on 24-06-2008 04:18
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Well that seemed to start the ball-rollin, no pun intended, thank you very much for all the comments & pros/cons, and as for moaning, me moan! I just think a choice is the fairest solution, if both players are happy to use a spotted white then fine, if one of the players does not it could be changed.
Nuff Zed on this I think, we're playing at Suzy Q's again tomorrow against the Imps, I have no doubt it will be a close fought battle with the normal fun inbetween.
Laters,
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