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Singles - Round Three
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| Golden |
Posted on 13-12-2007 22:34
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FORUM ADDICT!
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chuckles wrote:
Danny, you are being incredibly selfish in your answer to what it matters about the decline of the league. When will you start to worry? When there are 2 divisions. One maybe or just 24 of the best Croydon has to offer.
As for why ?allowances are being made for players who are of a lesser standard than others?. Why not? I don?t see how it affects you. Would you like to play in it? What allowances would you like for first division players to even things out for you?
There are a hell of a lot more players in the league that do not come up to your standard, but that doesn't make them any less important.
But it equally doesn't make them more important to the extent where they get three extra competitions excluding members of the league who play exactly the same entry fee at the start of the season . . |
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| nuttmeg |
Posted on 14-12-2007 00:35
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Home From Home
Posts: 423
Joined: 09.10.07
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the mighty Eagles started in the 5th division,at the time first division teams included the brigstock A who two years later changed there name to the characters (widely reguarded as the 2nd best ever team in croydon:smug the red deer, the star etc all top teams who were as good as anybody around today.We practised a lot and had a good team ethic this led us to climb the divisions, any team around today can do the same thing. Once you start improving and get to a certain level if you then need to bolster your squad it's easier to attract good players who fit in. To say it is almost impossible to climb the divisions says more about mentality than ability |
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| oddball |
Posted on 14-12-2007 04:25
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Getting The Hang Of It
Posts: 43
Joined: 11.10.07
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I think the main reasons for there not being to many teams working their way up the divisions now days is the lack of young players in the lower divisions. if you have a look around you next time you play you will see that most of the players around you are 25 plus; who have
been playing in the league for many years possibly in the same team.
and a good many would have played in the top divisions in the past to.
but As soon as any talent comes along today it's poached straight into the top teams to keep the subs bench warm until one of the big names can't make the grade any more. When i first started played in the league back in 1978 it was made up of all the pubs/clubs to give their customers young old good or bad some entertainment and bring in some income midweek now it's all about being a big name in a local pool league. |
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| Lils |
Posted on 14-12-2007 08:25
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Must Get Out More
Posts: 674
Joined: 10.09.07
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oddball wrote:
I think the main reasons for there not being to many teams working their way up the divisions now days is the lack of young players in the lower divisions.
Dunno what division you play in, but there are a plethora of young players in the 'lower' divisions. The Loyalists 'B' team has plenty of youngsters, Nicky Barber at the Manor, The Greyhound in Div 5 is a young team and they're just the ones off the top of my head.
As soon as any talent comes along today it's poached straight into the top teams to keep the subs bench warm until one of the big names can't make the grade any more.
And who's choice is that? No team forces any player into signing. If any individual chooses to take their chances as to whether they get a game every week rather than playing regularly in a lower divisional team, then good luck to them. Just shows that they're prepared to wait until their oppotunity arises to show their worthiness in the chosen top team. Let's hate the youngsters for setting their sights higher than the 'old boys'.
When i first started played in the league back in 1978 it was made up of all the pubs/clubs to give their customers young old good or bad some entertainment and bring in some income midweek
Ahh, jumpers for goalposts, fresh bread for a shilling, etc . . 
now it's all about being a big name in a local pool league.
Do you really think the top players in the Croydon league give a shit about being a big name?!! Yeah, why not slate players for doing well - that's the spirit of what's meant to be a Gentlemans League, eh?!!! Tell you what, why not only allow Division One players to play 10 matches a year, so the lower divisions can have the extra matches to gain more ranking points and get a better chance of winning the top ranked player award? After all, they've only got 3 extra comps at the moment - why stop there?!!!!!! 
The lower divisions were crying out for equality in the size of the trophies at the AGM, yet then voted in three extra competitions which excluded Division One players!!! It just gets funnier!
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| neo69 |
Posted on 14-12-2007 15:01
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Quite The Regular
Posts: 93
Joined: 05.11.07
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well said don |
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| Brooker |
Posted on 15-12-2007 00:50
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Home From Home
Posts: 233
Joined: 08.10.07
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"plethora" what a word
I would have used "a lot", but then i am from Addington 
I would rather be playing golf |
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| oddball |
Posted on 16-12-2007 04:27
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Getting The Hang Of It
Posts: 43
Joined: 11.10.07
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I didn't say there are no young players in the lower divisions i said most of them are 25 plus and played in top divisions in the past.
I don't hate the youngsters there are some very good young players in the lower divisions but if there that good how long will it be before a big team comes in to sign them. how can his/ her team work it's way to the top then. was my reply to nutmeg. As for us old boys we've had our days in the first division most of us just play for the enjoyment and try to beat some good players along the way.
Bye the way i didn't know you get ranking points in the plate comps. if so that is wrong only the main competitions should get ranking points. as you mentioned the ranking points how many years has it been that the 1st division players get more ranking points than the lower divisions per league game it would be a lot fairer if all league players started on level points per game. As it seems all the first division players now get byes into the 2nd round in all main comps now |
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| Lils |
Posted on 17-12-2007 06:01
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Must Get Out More
Posts: 674
Joined: 10.09.07
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Oddball, are you on drugs or just a bit 'special'?!!!
If a young, talented player wants to improve and go to a better team, who's fault is that? Are they in the wrong for wanting to improve? And with all due respect, if they're perfectly happy in the team they're in, they'll stay where they are.
Division One players get a bye into Round 2 of the comps because of the 3 extra competitions in which they are NOT ALLOWED TO ENTER.
And as for Div 1 players getting more ranking points, it's because they're generally playing against tougher opposition. But to be honest, even if you DID bring that rule in (which i'm sure you'd be in favour of, seeing as you believe that the lesser talented player should be rewarded for being rubbish) I doubt very much if you'd see THAT big a difference. Rod Altes dropped around 2 frames in the League last year and won pretty much everything. Who else in the lower Divisions even got close to that? I don't really see your point. As said before, why not just handicap all the good players who've practiced hard to play well? In fact, why not just ostracize all 'good' players from the League?
Anyway, if you are that desperate for a trophy, you can have one of mine or my husbands - we've got loads at home. I'll even get it engraved for you; i'm generous like that.
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