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Singles - Round Three
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| Pondlife |
Posted on 16-11-2007 05:06
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You would all appear to be incredibly naive in your response to the new plate competitions. The reasons for their introduction was to try to maintain/increase the number of teams in the league. To do nothing about the membership decline would have been criminal. The intention was to try to attract new teams and give them a greater chance of winning something. That certainly was not the case before. It's amazing that some people seem to think that the changes weren't necessary or don't really give a toss either way. They were voted in using the democratic process. No doubt,if they prove to be unpopular,they could quite easily be voted out at some future meeting. Sometimes it's hard to progress but to stand still and do nothing is easy !! |
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| Golden |
Posted on 16-11-2007 06:43
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What is the big deal about how many teams there are in the league?
Are you worried about eventually finishing in the bottom three of the entire league Pat as:
a) I don't think it'll ever get that bad
 You can't get relegated out of the entire league
All jokes aside, the 'plate' concept is awful . . The question that needs to be asked is why allowances are being made for players who are of a lesser standard than others? The top players and top teams are at the top for a reason as are the 'lesser' players and teams . . IT's just the way it is . . There are no allowances made for the better players or teams . . |
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| Pondlife |
Posted on 16-11-2007 21:15
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Danny,you know full well that I have no personal axe to grind whatsoever. Everybody should be concerned at the way that the league is shrinking. You can only try to improve the situation by innovation. As I've already said:To do nothing is not an option. Fifty years ago the Midland Bank was the largest in the world.Now it is a subsidiary of a chinese takeaway (HSBC). I know that there are unique reasons for the possible demise of two 1st division teams during this season. How many more will go down the same route ? You question whether it matters that the number of teams in the league is reducing.The short answer is YES it does matter!! Most of todays top players had to start somewhere . Don't deprive the future champions of their opportunities! Stop thinking about today and concentrate a little more on tomorrow !! |
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| Golden |
Posted on 16-11-2007 21:49
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I still don't understand what the number of teams has to do with 'future champions'? You say that most of today's top players had to start somewhere . . You'll probably find that most of today's top players joined a team that were already playing top level pool . . I first joined The Prop . . Kyle first joined the Eagles, Sean Halligan joined the Hot Shots, Jacko first joined The Prop . .
Teams drop out, that's just the way it is as if they didn't then the league would have about 200 teams by now . . |
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| harry |
Posted on 16-11-2007 23:55
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Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Kyle first play for me?
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| Pondlife |
Posted on 17-11-2007 00:15
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Thank you Harry. That proves my point that the insignificant teams do serve a purpose !! Ha ha !! |
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| Golden |
Posted on 17-11-2007 01:38
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I was always led to believe that Kyle played for the Eagles first . . If he did play for your lot first then Pat's right  |
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| oddball |
Posted on 17-11-2007 05:31
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Golden i think what pondlife is trying to say is that the croydonpool league has been around a lot longer than most of the players of today and hopefully many years after they have gone. The league is about all five divisions. I played 1st division pool myself for over 10years and i think there are many other old 1st div. players who play their pool in the lower divisions today. In my days most of the teams came from local pubs and clubs who worked their way up to the 1st division not like the teams of today full of inported players. |
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| Golden |
Posted on 17-11-2007 22:06
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Pat's argument is the number of teams that are in the leaugue . . Whether there are 5 divisions or 55 divisions, the league still consists of a top level and a bottom level and everyone finds their place within that . . |
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| andye |
Posted on 17-11-2007 22:16
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i thought kyle started with the tornados...
in 2000/1 the tornados including kyle and john robinson helped them to a shock win in the k.o. cup final against the eagles and hence were both signed up to us in due course...
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| Golden |
Posted on 17-11-2007 22:28
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That sounds about right . .
. . the main thing is he's where he's meant to be now. |
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| Grettal |
Posted on 23-11-2007 03:54
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aww bollox....
Not that I wanted a night off anyways |
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| Grettal |
Posted on 27-11-2007 14:36
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Anyone know how Ian Chapman Vs Sean Kelly got on?
I lost 2-0 in an amazing succession of bad luck. Glad there were no lightning storms on the way home or I prolly would have been hit. |
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| Spud |
Posted on 27-11-2007 16:16
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I had a bit of a late dilema thrust upon me, Ian was kind enough to reschedule (Thanks mate) so will get it sorted out in the very near future. |
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| Cue_Ball |
Posted on 27-11-2007 19:34
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I beat Ray Speller 2-0. |
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| TB |
Posted on 27-11-2007 19:37
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Steve Rowlerson beat Richard Turly 2-1 |
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| Golden |
Posted on 13-12-2007 19:25
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Sean Kelly beat Ian Chapman in the tie of the round . . |
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| chuckles |
Posted on 13-12-2007 20:41
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Danny, you are being incredibly selfish in your answer to what it matters about the decline of the league. When will you start to worry? When there are 2 divisions. One maybe or just 24 of the best Croydon has to offer.
As for why ?allowances are being made for players who are of a lesser standard than others?. Why not? I don?t see how it affects you. Would you like to play in it? What allowances would you like for first division players to even things out for you?
There are a hell of a lot more players in the league that do not come up to your standard, but that doesn't make them any less important. Mark Halsey has said that he needs a basic running cost to run the league. If there are less teams the price goes up. Which in turn could put more teams off joining the league. Therefore cutting the size even more. I applaud Pondlife for coming up with new ideas. I think the Plate Comp needs some work, but it does keep the lesser players playing and presumably improving.
I also think that Paparazzi?s idea of the KO competitions starting at divisional level, before the winners, or top 4, progress to a ?finals? round, is well worth looking at.
As for teams working their way up the league, I think those days are over. When I joined the league, about 15 years ago, The Imperials and the Prop were at the same level. We followed each other working our way through the Divisions, normally 1st and 2nd, until we got to the second div where the Prop took over and have been one of the top teams ever since. That doesn?t appear to happen any more. The top teams recruit their players.
On another note. I also remember when The Croydon and District Pool League, meant Croydon and District. If it weren?t for the likes of the teams from The Coach and Horses in Lewisham we probably would have only 4 divisions.
Always have a plan 'B'
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 13-12-2007 21:29
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chuckles wrote:
As for teams working their way up the league, I think those days are over.
Why? There are several examples in the recent past and present that conflict that view.
The Coney: The Home of Bread and Butter pool since 1999 |
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| harry |
Posted on 13-12-2007 21:54
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That's true, we did!
Harry Time! |
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