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German&Jacko 0v3 Mev&John.... Hilarious state of affairs tonight NOT, after gifting them the first frame when in a world rules scenario we were very much in it if not favourites we then dish the second only to miss towards the end but still favourites for the frame,then we have easily won the frame after a deliberate foul by mev gives us a foul snooker, unfortunately it's not agreed so we ask mark h to make the decision n he says it's not a fail snooker when everyone in the club knows it is apart from our opponents n mick o d n mark h,sometimes mistakes happen but something so obvious is hard to take as I truly believed we were gonna not only win that frame but the match,apparently John hoy offered us the fail snooker but only if we gave them the first two frames as I was late which would give them the match,very gracious offer John...I said to German I wanted to take them up on that offer as I would rather lose by the rules than let this ridiculous call stand,but also the rules are we should abide by a refs call even if it's wrong, we obviously lost that frame we could not win after the wrong call was made n then just slapped balls around to lose the last as had no will to win left..I truly believe there was no cheating going on it was just a simple mistake by the guys involved but still a painful 1 as everybody else knew it was a foul snooker n I'm talking about some of the best county players around n a Surrey player,shame this as tarnished the night but like I said I do not believe that it was done to deliberately cheat it was just a mistake... Would be nice if our leader n everyone playing this game understood the rules n geometry a little better but such is life,good luck to everyone in the final, we live n learn,hopefully :angel: