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Posted by Sass on 12-11-2007 05:58

From the EPA site . . .

CHAMPION OF CHAMPIONS

Following the unfortunate cancellation of the events for the weekend of 9th - 11th November the English Pool Association are pleased to be able to give details of the re-scheduled events.

All events are now scheduled for 1st - 3rd February 2008 as detailed below.

Ladies National Amateur February 1st 2008 Yarmouth.
C of C & Ladies K/O Cup 2nd & 3rd February Yarmouth.
Accommodation will be available on the Thursday night for those that have booked it.

Accommodation for the event in November was sold out, there is next to 0% chance of any further accommodation being available.
The Tournament Director, Alan Benton is prepared to accept additional entries to the Ladies National Singles. (limited numbers, first come first served)

Time table of events will be exactly as published for November 2007.

All accommodation bookings will be honoured, any teams or individuals that wish to withdraw will be given full accommodation refunds.

Any new teams brought in to replace teams that may withdraw will be charged the 2007 accommodation rate of ?37.50 (?32 juniors)

Security bonds paid in last weekend will be refunded by VHP by post in due course.

The Tournament Director, Alan Benton will be writing to all entrants to offer them the alternative dates, He will be supplying self addressed, stamped envelopes to all entrants to take away any excuses to not replying. He will assume anyone that doesn't respond by he deadline date is attending, at this point the refund offer will be withdrawn.

Posted by Sass on 20-11-2007 21:44

Just seen this on the EPA site. Maybe it's all off again???

CHAMPION OF CHAMPIONS

FURTHER DETAILS TO BE ANNOUNCED SHORTLY

Posted by Golden on 20-11-2007 22:03

That's the EPA for you . .

Posted by Shaggy on 20-11-2007 22:16

I heard that the new proposed dates, clashed with a ladies tour, and as this was ladies nationals, and ladies interleague perhaps it would be advantagous if they could actually be there.

Posted by Sass on 20-11-2007 22:26

There are 50 odd players on the ladies tour. Surely it makes more sense to move that? :lol:

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 01:12

Or better still cancel the ladies event altogether . . It's a poor state of affairs when they're rescheduling one of the biggest events of the year to accomodate women :no:

Posted by Sass on 21-11-2007 03:55

Oh it gets better. New dates are 15th, 16th and 17th February. Sound familiar???

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 08:09

That sounds about right, but it won't affect the majority of the Croydon players involved in the Open, so it's not all bad.

Posted by Sass on 21-11-2007 08:41

It will affect several who have already paid their money.

I will speak with Danny and Hannah and we can decide what's the best option. If our date remains the same then those affected will receive a refund.

Edited by Sass on 21-11-2007 08:43

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 18:32

#10

That's a silly weekend to rearrange it to as doesn't it then clash with Jersey?

Posted by Sass on 21-11-2007 18:38

#11

Yes it does. It's fekking stupid.

I'm happy to leave it as it is as I won't be going to Yarmouth now as they've moved the Ladies KO to the Friday. The other people affected are the Clarkes, Michael Brown, Sean Halligan, Rod Altes and Sarah King. So far just the Clarkes and Sarah have paid their entry.

There may be others but that's all I can think of.

Posted by Spudangles on 21-11-2007 18:43

#12

Are there no other dates seeing all the Hotshots players you have mentioned have supported this comp in the past?

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 18:57

#13

I think it comes down to whether or not the competition should be rescheduled for 5 people out of the 64 . . I understand where you are coming from but that equates to just under 8% of the . . In addition, only 2 of those 5 have paid so far . .

Posted by Sass on 21-11-2007 18:59

#14

Well there is little point in the paying right now . . . !

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 19:05

#15

But up until today this all wasn't to be known so it just shows the importance of paying early :D

Posted by Spudangles on 21-11-2007 19:13

#16

Looks like you want an easier field as usual Dan :chicken:

Posted by Sass on 21-11-2007 19:13

#17

Can you explain the logic in that argument? 2 out of 5 Hot Shots have paid - that's a 40% payment rate. The overall payment rate is just 34%.
Are Hotshots supposed to predict these things?:?:

Seriously though Sean helped me big time in running the thing last year - I think it's reasonable to have a look at the calendar and see if there is an alternative date.

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 19:22

#18

Crack on Sass . . You know best . . I may not be Carol Vorderman but my point remains the same . .

Posted by Shaggy on 21-11-2007 19:27

#19

My theory is that their is no time in the calendar, and thats why when comp dates change, they always affect someone, whether it be an officaial EPA event, or in this instance more local comps.

You are the organiser so can pretty much do what you like, but I am sure people that have factored in this date will be equally peeved if they cannot play due to it being rescheduled.

Posted by neo69 on 21-11-2007 19:30

#20

it also means the current croydon champion cant play either:cry:

Posted by Shaggy on 21-11-2007 19:30

#21

The comp is over subscribed at present anyway so it will still be a maximum field.

Edited by Shaggy on 21-11-2007 19:31

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 19:34

#22

neo69 wrote:
it also means the current croydon champion cant play either:cry:

:lol:

Posted by Sass on 21-11-2007 19:47

#23

But I will be there Ian! ;)

Shaggy's point is valid and if it wasn't for the fact the Hotshots team have always supported the comps I've been involved in running I wouldn't even be entertaining the idea of moving this one. I also think that the comp without the last years runner up, the current Winter and Summer champions :blah: etc etc would be devalued and at the end of the day it is through no fault of their own that the find themselves unable to attend.

Chances are there won't be a suitable date available anyway but there is no harm in looking.

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 19:53

#24

But equally it's not the 59 other players faults that the HotShots are attending an event that has had it's date moved . . Also there are two previous Open Winners that are not able to attend at present because of the format yet that's just the way it is . .

I agree that it's unfortunate that the Hot Shots would miss out by this recent date change but does that warrant the Open being moved everytime a small number of people can't attend?

Posted by Sass on 21-11-2007 19:59

#25

If they had all paid fair enough. They haven't though. A different date might actually produce more entries . . .

Posted by Shaggy on 21-11-2007 20:03

#26

Given all the kerfuffle with the Champion of Champions, it would not suprise me if the Eagles were invited to the C of C if their are enough team drop outs. Personally I wouldnt expected it to change on our behalf, especially if the numbers to run the comp still stack up.

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 20:06

#27

Surely Hannah should be the person spoken to about a change of date before even speaking about it on the website?

And what happens if you change the date and you get fewer entries? Do you move the date again?

The only thing that should matter is having the comp filled.

It wasn't that long ago people were trying to get the Presentation Night changed to cater for a handful of people who couldn't make it. . .

Posted by Spud on 21-11-2007 20:09

#28

I don't think you should read into the paid entries too much, there is still 3 months till the comp.

You'll be fully paid.

Posted by Sass on 21-11-2007 20:10

#29

I think you'll find I've said earlier in this thread that I will speak to Hannah. I've responded to the issue as it was raised.

There's no point in talking to anybody till I checked the calendar which I have now done given all the interest.

Allowing for my own commitments and working round the pool calendar the next available date would be the 15th March. My view is that we've already started to taking money for this and to be holding on to it that long is ridiculous. While it's unfortunate that the Hotshots will miss out the original date should stand.

I'll put on another comp later in the year.

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 20:13

#30

Sass wrote:
If they had all paid fair enough. They haven't though. A different date might actually produce more entries . . .

How many of those who have paid so far are going to CofC?

Posted by Shaggy on 21-11-2007 20:17

#31

Sass wrote:
I think you'll find I've said earlier in this thread that I will speak to Hannah. I've responded to the issue as it was raised.

There's no point in talking to anybody till I checked the calendar which I have now done given all the interest.

Allowing for my own commitments and working round the pool calendar the next available date would be the 15th March. My view is that we've already started to taking money for this and to be holding on to it that long is ridiculous. While it's unfortunate that the Hotshots will miss out the original date should stand.

I'll put on another comp later in the year.

An extra comp. Its all good. What are we calling it?

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 20:18

#32

:lol:

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 20:25

#33

Sass wrote:
I'll put on another comp later in the year.

You can't . . The Hot Shots are doing something that day . .

Posted by Sass on 21-11-2007 20:26

#34

:?:

Lils wrote:
:lol:

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 20:29

#35

Ummmm, I was laughing at Shaggys post. The one directly above where mine is.

Posted by Spudangles on 21-11-2007 20:45

#36

Stick your comp :swear:

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 20:47

#37

THAT'S a well thought out response.

Posted by Shaggy on 21-11-2007 20:58

#38

Spudangles wrote:
Stick your comp :swear:

You could always miss the C of C's for the Croydon Open

Posted by Spudangles on 21-11-2007 21:02

#39

Danny and Donna on the warpath again happy days.

Posted by Shaggy on 21-11-2007 21:06

#40

Sean, the probability of the EPA changing their dates against is highly likely so this is all lucky to end up with group hugs all round!

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 21:07

#41

:bored:

You're the one stating to all on the website to 'stick the comp'. And I thought you and Sass were friends; not very nice to speak to the Tournament Organiser that way.

Just out of interest though, is EVERYTHING meant to revolve around your team? You do have the choice not to go to Champion of Champions after all . . . You should consider yourself lucky that you're such a fantastic player and have that choice . . .

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 21:14

#42

Spudangles wrote:
Danny and Donna on the warpath again happy days.

Yes Sean . . You're right once again . . Yet another well thought out response . .

. . as usual it's about who you know rather than what you know so I am sure you'll get what you want . .

Posted by Spudangles on 21-11-2007 21:20

#43

No Danny you have got what you want, Sass is saying she is not changing the event:clap: The real reason you dont want to even concider changing it is because you dont like mixing it with players better than yourself. You have a recent history of entering comps with good players in it and pulling out at the last minute. I have no idea why Sarah is helping you run this comp all you do is knock everything she says on here both of you. Why are you so nice face to face with people when all you do is dig on here. Im not going to get in a long running argument with you both on here again. Do as you will with the comp im really not bothered.

Posted by Spudangles on 21-11-2007 21:25

#44

:fish:

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 21:28

#45

Spudangles wrote:
The real reason you dont want to even concider changing it is because you dont like mixing it with players better than yourself.

:elol: :elol:

I have no idea why Sarah is helping you run this comp all you do is knock everything she says on here both of you.

I believe Sass chose to run this comp herself after Danny wasn't interested in running it. Danny still has nothing to do with it other than being asked to accept paypal payments which Sass is now doing.

As for 'both of you', I'm not involved in the running of this site or the running of these comps. When I run comps at Rileys, I do it as a thank you for Hannah and not to get free drinks and payment from it. . .

Posted by longshanks on 21-11-2007 21:29

#46

I think if the comp goes ahead on Feb 16th it will be considerably devalued .... because I won't be in it.

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 21:29

#47

You're right Sean as always . . You're that right that you didn't even know that it's Sarah's comp and I was helping her run it, not the other way around . . Would have thought you;d have known that . .

The difference is I play pool for fun and not for a living so I can take it or leave it when something better comes along . .

Pick out where I have had a 'dig' Sean . . I have constructed a logical explanation for why the competition shouldn't be moved, albeit with my maths slightly out . . Your response was "Stick your comp" . . Hmmm . .

Posted by Spudangles on 21-11-2007 21:30

#48

I do run comps for free drinks. Well spotted :drunk:

Posted by Spudangles on 21-11-2007 21:32

#49

Your turn Lils, this is tag team stuff right?

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 21:34

#50

And drinks for your friends? And double referee payments?!!

That last competition cost Rileys an extra £80+ on top of the free buffet they always lay on for their players. Nice.

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 21:36

#51

Your tag team partner already had their go - they've tried to rearrange the comp for your benefit . . . Right?! :lol::lol::lol:

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 21:38

#52

Sean if you wish to discuss it like adults then please feel free to PM me as this is all rather embarrassing . .

Posted by Spudangles on 21-11-2007 21:39

#53

Who tried to rearrange the comp? Sass said she wasnt changing the date on here and I didnt ask her too personally either. There you go c**ting people off again, nice one, whats sare done to you to get all these digs anyway?

Posted by Spudangles on 21-11-2007 21:40

#54

So you are not running the comp now because of selfish pool players Dan? Dont make me laugh mate you are one of the most selfish pool players I know. :chicken:

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 21:43

#55

Spudangles wrote:
So you are not running the comp now because of selfish pool players Dan? Dont make me laugh mate you are one of the most selfish pool players I know. :chicken:

:elol::elol::elol::elol: :judge:

It's getting better!! :lol::clap::judge::bow:

Posted by Golden on 21-11-2007 21:44

#56

Spudangles wrote:
So you are not running the comp now because of selfish pool players Dan? Dont make me laugh mate you are one of the most selfish pool players I know. :chicken:

I never was running it Sean . . I said I don't want to be involved with the competition because of selfish pool players . . It's nice that people are quoting PM's . . Maybe I'll have a go at that . .

Posted by Spudangles on 21-11-2007 21:45

#57

I think Lils just did on this thread.

Edited by Spudangles on 21-11-2007 21:46

Posted by Shaggy on 21-11-2007 21:48

#58

Tut tut you crazy kids. Squabbling is not the way. Only smarties have the answer.

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 21:49

#59

Quoting PM's? Where's that then? :?:

Please specify . . .

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 21:50

#60

Shaggy wrote:
Tut tut you crazy kids. Squabbling is not the way. Only smarties have the answer.

:elol: But kids will do anything for Dairylea . . Maybe Dairylea flavoured smarties are the future?

Posted by Sass on 21-11-2007 22:30

#61

Sheesh! All I did was consider changing the date and look what kicks off!

As a result of all this I'm left holding the baby. T'riffic :wall:

Forgive me for the short reply I have work to do! :omfg:

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 22:45

#62

'Left holding the baby'?

If the 'baby' was the Croydon Open, didn't you choose to hold it all on your own?!!!!

Or are you trying to tell us you're expecting . . . ;) :hugs::lol:

Posted by Lils on 21-11-2007 22:47

#63

P.S. For the 'special' amongst us, that WASN'T a dig at Sass in any way, shape or form. It was an attempt at humour. Sorry for any pain or suffering caused as a result.

Posted by ThePower on 21-11-2007 22:58

#64

We could always play the Croydon Open at some boozer on Yarmouth seafront.

Posted by Shaggy on 21-11-2007 23:29

#65

In the absence of the Hotshots starlets, a new method of payment has been developed.

As well as paying Hannah, Sass or Danny, a new paypal account has been set up. Please feel free to drop your hard earned ?15 into the following account.

RedDeerEaglesOpen...paypal.com

Always thinking about the users this site, the money goes directly to the winners, without the need for additional travel expenses.

This post is submitted with an arrogance overload smillie attached.

Posted by Sass on 22-11-2007 14:37

#66

Lils wrote:
'Left holding the baby'?

If the 'baby' was the Croydon Open, didn't you choose to hold it all on your own?!!!!

Or are you trying to tell us you're expecting . . . ;) :hugs::lol:

No and most definitely no. You need to check your sources!! :elol: