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We had quite a lively and interesting meeting this evening . Unfortunately for Rod,the vote went against him and he was disqualified from all the current knockout competitions. A new rule will be drafted and voted upon at the next AGM ,hopefully to prevent any similar circumstances in the future .

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Does this mean as from now, or from the beginning of the comps? Will the unfortunate souls that were beaten by him be reinstated? I think that Mr Rowe would have to feel very hard done by, if it is from now onwards. Will the whole draw need to be done again? Hard to see that being done as we are upto the third round!

Regards
Rainbow
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p.s I would have been playing Rod in the next round!!

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you now have a bye and who ever would have drawn rod and steve in doubles also has a bye....!

its clear what kind of people we have playing in this league....!

:chicken:

say no more....!

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Mr Cee , it should be clear to every member that violence of any sort will not be tolerated or condoned in any way ! You obviously have personal motives in your questionable support of Mr Altes . He'll be off at the start of the winter season because you will be in the 1st division and too many top sides play out of Rileys venues from which he is banned. If you are fortunate enough to be promoted at the end of this season,that will be the last that you see of him. He will surely defect to another lower league side because he will be able to play on a fairly regular basis . It is very unfortunate for him but it is a self-inflicted problem !! I personally think that he is extremely fortunate to be able to play in the league at all !!

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Not sure why you think people should bend over backwards to accomadate another player - Ie give-up a home advantage to play Rod or anyone else for that matter.....bottom line is the lge made a mistake & he shd have been told from the start that he is not allowed to play as the sponsors have banned him.......no need to go into details it is crystal fella - Nothing ag Rod just how it is

Tough on Steve - but guess he knew that Rod was barred so should have picked a diff pairing ;)

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Anyone want to run a sweepstake on the date of the next EGM?? Two in one year because people dont like the committees decison. What exactly is the point of the commitee if they can be questioned all the time??

I personally disagree with both EGM decisons, Prop should have gone through and Rod should have been allowed to play, as a decison was already made if this situation arose.

Banning him from a comp is half baked nonesense. Either let him play or grow some balls and ban him full stop.

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my opinion is farron rowe should play paul in the next round of the singles, as he had to lose home advantage in the last round and it could of been different if farron played rod at rileys,:wall: yes i no my opinion doesnt count but to be fair farron should have another shot at the singles,

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League sponsors made a decision of a 'life ban' presumably because of 'evidence' available to them. The sponsors, furthermore, seem comfortable with their decision in so far as supplying witnesses to support the pending prosecution.

With the above in mind, its difficult not to agree with Shaggy & Pondlife in that it seems bizarre the league did not act from the outset & nearly two years on he is still being allowed to participate in a greatly reduced format in this league.

EGM result on barring from competition was unanimous, as was expected by the majority of us, but fell short of reinstating Farron back into the competition. Also, for the past two years now this matter between Steve Field & Rod Altes has been a regular pool hall topic. Crown Court case looming in the weeks to come this topic will be discussed and debated more than ever. It seemed sensible & a perfect opportunity for the committee & its members to quell any further debates by implying a full suspension of playing rights until the conclusion of the impending trial.

Of course, the matter will not quite be resolved even after the trial & debates/speculations will continue to occur. In a previous post, which remains unanswered, I asked Mark to clarify what the committee's intentions are on dealing with the matter in the event of a 'guilty' verdict. Perhaps Mark will kindly clarify to everyone the procedure.

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Alex, its not the committee's call on whether Rod is banned from this League as we will only investigate matters if a complaint is received in writing from a League member or from a landlord/landlady or club manager. I explained this last night in detail. We, being the committee are not judge,jury and executioner for verbal or hearsay comments but even at the EGM last night I specifically asked all that were present was there anyone who wanted to make an official complaint regarding the alledged offence and there were members present that were also present on the night of the alledged offence that declined to. There was a party that wished to lodge a complaint but I would not accept it as he was not present at the venue on that night. I did not get the impression last night that the majority wanted Rod banned from the League so why should the committee be asking for it .... We are there at the end of the day to ensure the running of the league as per how the membership want it run. Now if the membership are not callingf for it yet then where does the committee come into the equasion. The call I made re the current situation was deemed as wrong by the majority and they have made amends to that call by the decision taken last night. The outcome of the impending court case does not make a difference to Rod's membership of the CDPL unless a motion is tabled and accepted by the membership ..... whether this is going to happen remains to be seen. I trust that this clarifies your concerns.

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I think the point is being missed slightly, this issue isn't about Rod. It's about what happens when a person gets themselves barred from a venue due to there own actions. In these circumstances is the player 1) barred from competition, 2) Knocked out because they can't fore-fill the fixture or 3) All the players games are played at a neutral venue (not just banned games). The rule should be the same for all players at any venue and then everyone in the league is aware.

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Your point flash is going to be discussed in detail at the AGM .... It was bounced around a bit last night but last night was about Rod's continued participation within KO comps for the remainder of the summer and the decision was taken to disqualify him with next round opponents receiving BYE's

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I couldn't agree more Neil, i am more than happy to have Farron re-instated into the comp in Rod's place. I will also play him at his venue as i was 'away' to Rod anyway, and of course Farron lost this in the game against Rod.

If the league agree that is, i think this would a fitting end to the situation overall.

Regards
Rainbow
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there you go mr rainbow is willing to play farron instead of the bye so all in favour as its not farrons fault that rod has been disqualified:banned: so reinstate him as they only played last week, i think this should happen as paul doesnt want a bye he wants to beat someone lol:boxer:

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The agreement reached last night was that next round opponents get BYES as there have been more than one previous opponents that have been beaten in previous rounds.

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i cant talk for farron, but my guess is he will view it that he lost his match, regardless of events after

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I am a bit pissed off about this decision for a number of reasons but first Of all I agreed to play rod because it was deemed correct and necessary for me to I was not allowed to re arrange my game and I lost fair n square so at no point should I be re-instated to clear that up.

However what I am pissed off with is that this decision should have been decided before my match sorry before the comp had started. A serious lack of common sense from all parties involved I feel. Like I said I was not allowed to postpone then an EGM is called on my 21st birthday( think I had better things to do than go to this) then the people of the Croydon league chose to throw rod out?!?

I feel that's just wrong. He should have been allowed to continue in the comp other wise the people who have been knocked out feel agrieved. I understand it was not logical for him to continue in the comp but mr Halsley should of taken note of that in the first round.

Well at least now this can have a line drawn under this farcical debate and decision :(

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Make u right Farron but u did start this chirade.

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I think the main reason for disqualifying Rod is that the latter stages of the knock-out competitions will be held at Rileys. If that wasn't the case it might well have been a different decision. It really would have been a farce if the final and one semi-final etc had to be played elsewhere when Rileys are stumping up a bit of cash to sponsor the competitions.

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Ive kept out of this and i have not got a problem with Rod. He has always been polite and a good winner and loser either way. What Rod does in his personal time is up to him. I for one think he will be a loss to the singles/doubles cos u always want to beat the best. At the end of the day the committee/rileys have f--ked up big time in letting this progress so far. Ive been reading alot of things on this website lately,and i think people are losing track of why we play pool mon/tues. Its suppose to be competitive and enjoyable guys so lets all try to get back to that.:clap:

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rod is indeed the best loser i have met never complains about bad luck/run , i agree kermy i think i we all play cos we enjoy the sport,just lately its had nothing to do with pool...... i see u are playing a money match with met??? can i be very rude and ask who u are? i mean that in the nicest possible way

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See u in the next round of the singles Mark.

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last nites meetin woz held 2rectify a situation wat arose wat woz forcin players 2change venues 2accomodate a barred player,the outcum woz 2remove any player from competions they cannot play at if barred from the venues wat hold them..makes perfect sense as a 15 to 1 majority agreed...shame things ad got so out ov hand n any comp wil b slightly devalued without sum1 ov rods talent in them...but fairs fair i beleave the meetin ad the fairest outcum in the circumstances...:angel:

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i think people should learn the queens english

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I think whats done is done and dusted....life is life.....the league have to make some tough decisions sometimes...thatsw why their there which we should all respect that and i need a egm because rieleys don't do strongbow anymore...just the allsoran old english cider which is tasty but hasn't got the whack...and Kermy the legend that you are..I would probably beat you too....JP

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Im no legend JP,seem to recall that ive already taken your money once,but your quite welcome to come and have another pop. Better do a few more shifts in that kitchen of yours first mate.LOL

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I understand he will have his supporters, and fan base. He is sublime to watch play the game but at what & who's expense will it continue, he has lost the respect of a large number of players by his actions off the table. His fan base has deminished as a consequence of not just the recent issue but bans imposed in the past. Its disappointing for the league members to be called to an EGM to talk about & cast a vote condeming someone who has been at the top of pool in Croydon for the last decade. The thing is this has overshadowed his undeniable talent & eye for the game regardless of whether he is guilty or not.

I'm embarrassed for him, & ultimately this latest episode is what most of us will remember him for. The league committee will no doubt decide in time if he has a future in Croydon pool & they are slowly reducing his options to play in the league.

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*Queen's :thumb:

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i fink sum people may no DER queens english but use txt slang ....tally bally ho wat wat wat, long live the Queen n er splendid language.....i think sum people should learn how 2play pool rather than try n b clever dickies..n also others if the hall ov fame woz updated could count trophies n c whos been at the top ov croydon pool maybe not so much recent years coz ov those lovely rileys people...ban gets lifted n wins the rankins straight away,says it all really....:angel:

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i would indeed agree u have won alot more than anyone and without doudt a big name in" croydon"but your are a big fish in a very small pond, slef praise is very often overrated, also i think it helps being captain cos u get to "hand pick" the weeker players from week to week , just a thought

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mark 2 win the rankins again i could ov played 5th n ada bye but moved position thinkin its not the way 2 win...i fear no 1 av no need 2 hand pick opponants ,made last 32 in the country in champion ov the champions n av came 3rd in lowen sport national 9ball comp n also ad oppotunity 2 play 4 england at 9ball so aint justa croydon boy..but cant b arsed wit pool n all the time it eats up..i stil ava beer n a game in croydon which can b a chore at times as it is, let alone playin all over the shop...u really think i need 2 hand pick my opponants tis quiet a ludicrus statement,any1 who nos me nos i play better wen under pressure so playin so called weaker players is not beneficial 2my chances....callin croydon a very small pond is pretty insultin 2 every1 in our league me thinks :angel:

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It must certainly was not a insult to anyone in the league,which I've played in for maybe 8 years now, I am mearly pointing out that they is a big wide world outside of Croydon pool, and I find it rather funny how people cone on here and rant how good they are after winning certain things in Croydon, winning the ranking is cleary a tough thing to do no doubt,win a region 7 tour or a hearts tour and then by all means come on hear and tell us all how great u are, I love playing in this leauge it's well run and on the whole the people are great , but why people choose to come on here and tell us what they have won baffles me....... Just a thought

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only mention anyfin 2correct people wen they make false statesments regarding other peoples dominance or croydon bein sucha small pond...did hot shots not win the nationals,did graham thompson not becum world n european over 50s champ 4englands team..n look at the class players we av n av ad in our league so calling us a small pond is very much an insult...clearly wer not the best in the land but we can all play a bit..im not tryin 2 boast just tryin 2 answer ur insult 2myself n our league..hand pickin players how ridiculas n our small pond can mix it anywhere on our day..:angel:

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Why on earth would I insult a leauge that I have played in for years, indeed they is and had been some class acts playing in the leauge, but the point I'm tying to make is that the likes of rod, shaggy, eddie, Hugh, pope mev to name but I few , I don't ever recall any of the above using this Site to remind of what they have won or indeed how good they are, why such a good player as yourslef finds the need to remind us of what u have indeed won, only u know

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as previously stated only a rebuff 2 ur previous statements...sayin i hand pick my opponants n ima big fish ina small pond is very insultin 2 1 n all...only u no wat u meant wen u said that but i ava lot ov time 4 croydon pool n im proud ov wat iv acheived in it ,so wen u call it a small pond i take offence as im sure many others do....u obvoiusley didnt mean it as it came out ..no dramas leave it b :angel:

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JASONS OFF AGAIN