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Slate 3-7 The Jolly

Very enjoyable games against some top lads, but a fair result.

We are hitting some top form at present and this result should see us safe, hopefully see us do well in last 2 league games and give our all in our Semi with the Prop on Monday also...if Everton can get to the FA Cup final then anything can happen !!

Seriously,

Roger and team, best of luck next two games, as with everyone else left battling after tonights games. 3 good teams are going down, whatever happens....

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Cuemasters 5-5 Patriots - the draw specialists strike again although at 0-4 down it looked like a drubbing was on the cards. Have to say we had the luck when it mattered and the whole match had an air of nothing much to play for. Good atmosphere as always though and good to see Berty make his 2nd appearance in the last 3 weeks. If he stays interested croydonpool.com will be the better for it.

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Sick finish from Dave te guy is genuine class. good result all be it with a bit of run.

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eden 4 legion 6

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The Propeller 5 Pond Q's 5 Another boring score draw. I didn't make it ,as I unfortunately decided to stay at home to watch the mighty Gunners partake in the game of the season. Apparently the Prop were extremely fortunate to scrape a draw,as were Liverpool . I cannot for the life of me work out where the referee found nearly eight minutes of extra time as there were hardly any breaks at all. It was almost as if he wanted the scousers to scrape a draw. Generally though the game was well refereed by the crowd. Arsenal had two other perfectly good goals disallowed. We should have won 6-4 !! This guy is apparently supposed to be one of our top referees. I would hate to see the bottom ones perform on a regular basis ! The Unpredictables were soundly thrashed by the Hot Shots 1-9. Can't wait for next week to play the Eden luvvies. It is so sad to see them struggling on a very regular basis. They will be a great loss to the top division. The quality will never be the same again. Are they too good to go down ? Could they become the "Newcastle" of pool ? It could be a very exciting last game for them after we have spanked them next week ! Ooh,it's so exciting !! :bite:

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yes as pat says unpredictables got spanked 9 1 and could have easily been 10 nil,must say we were absolutly terrible last night and well played to the hotshots who took their chances when they matered.
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Hounds v Eagles score anyone?????

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tottaly differnt hotshots last night for monday, with sean just running out of postion on his last ball this could have been our 2nd ten nil of the season we were given chances for sure but we took them all very well

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We got dealt a cruel bit of luck in Truey's 2nd game last night, and we gifted one or two others to the Legion. But credit to them they stuck at it & took out their chances. Scott Lansing was a welcome return of for us and he took out two sick blacks for his 2 from 2. Scott Harkness in 2nd frame dished up in style. For them, Chris & Clive were as normal ultra consistent when allowed amongst the balls, and Andy Hazell played one of the quality shots of the season in his 2nd frame of the night.

As for the Eden, we can't buy a win at present. But again in week 20 the rest of them around us can't buy a win either. Pond next week, and we still have our destiny in our own hands. Thats the difference Pat. ;)

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I heard this match was cancelled due to a certain darts exhibition at Rileys. Clearly, the Croydon rules allow sides to cancel crucial matches because Phil 'Porky' Taylor is in town, that as a result has and will ultimately effect the championship race and relegation battle.

I would imagine the Prop will be cheesed off. Especially, when both sides buy a ticket to turn up to watch Taylor throw some arrows. Other question has to be, why has a darts exhibition been organised on a pool night - 3 weeks to the close of a season that has been the closest run title race for the last decade. In a venue that has 20 teams playing out of it!

No doubt, Sir Tony Nuttman and Teach will have a good excuse worked out for us all.

I have one word for it.

GAMESMANSHIP.

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Ok ill respond. Myself and Sean were keen to watch Taylor as we are both avid darts fans, that simple.

If the Bloodhounds had insisted we were to play we would have. We would have played it earlier however because Adams dad is ill, he is restricted to playing Monday or Tuesday only. We were going to play a double header on Monday but this would have meant Bloodhounds giving uo their home advantage which clearly they didnt want to do.

Ironically if we played it yesterday the Bllodhounds would have been without Darren Porter and Adam, so it would have worked out better for us (especially as Phil Taylor threw about 20 darts and ate for the rest of the night!).

I would have much rather been in the Props shoes. If they had thrown in a 9-1 or similar we would have been under it massively. I would suspect they are more annoyed with themselves than us.

Anyway, Mark agreeed on the basis that the game is played prior to nexts weeks game, the Prop new we were cancellling and could have done the same should they have wished. We are playing the Bloodhounds next Tuesday at 7pm.

Alex, you should be concentrating on the other end of the table my old c0cker.

With regard to why an exhibition on Tuesday, I beleive this was set up to suit the various darts leagues that Rileys want to attract.

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It wants to have been good as it stopped me from popping in for a drink on my birthday! :lol:

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it's not often you hear the words 'keen to watch the power' on this website i admit....

we had arranged to play the league match on monday (so would have been in the same position as the prop are) but the big fcuk up with the fixture list meant it was the league cup quarter-final that took place and hence the league match was postponed.

both teams had players missing as 5haggy has mentioned, myself included to have a minor op on my thumb

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*******gy/Andy,

I think you are missing my point.

Both sides had enough players to field a valid team (3 is enough) - so why was this match cancelled?

Maybe a valid excuse if you were the HOME team, as the darts was at Rileys, but according to the fixture list you were the away side!

We attempted to cancel a game with the Jolly a few weeks back because we were also short of players but the Jolly refused to accomodate our request as we had 3 players available.

Personally, I think it was wrong to cancel last night. Regardless of the Prop's scoreline it gives the Eagles an advantage. If the Prop had won big, you would have had the option to whizz Danny Evans down the M1 for a double header. As for the Hounds, they also now know they are just 4 points adrift of London & 6 behind the Eden. I'd much rather play a match knowing that....

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WHAT A LOAD OF OLD *******
Alex everybody knows your sanctimonious but now you have shown yourself to be a hippocrite.Who was it last year towards the end of the season who begged us to cancel a match so you could go horse racing oh thats right GRRR
I have one word for you *******

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That's because we didn't have THREE players available to fulfill the fixture.

Something which last night you clearly both had.

Sir Tony, as a captain who has a team in the relegation shake up, I have a right to express my view whether you like that or not, I am not bothered.

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Alex,

On our game with you that you have mentioned, your team consisted of Barry, Farron, Rab and Scott, 4 very good players in their own right, plus 2 i have never had the opportunity to play against before. So not necessarily your weakest team. And you had the chances to change the score line on the night.
You were also aware, days in advance of issues within your own team and had time to sort things out.

As my PM to you on this also said, i have very few to choose from in the next two league games, but we will play full stop - it's my problem if i cant get a team out, not the oppositions

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You would have had 7 if you hadn't have gone racing. As *******gy has already said there was if the bloodhounds refused to cancel we wouldn't have gone to meet and greet *******gy, Sean and Tommys hero in the flesh.There is no ulteria motive here Alex.

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*******gy you are defo going to have a word with Mr Saxton every time I type *******gy it comes out *******gy.

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I can't see that postponing the game will have any effect on the result, so long as it's played before the next match. Both teams still need to win.

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This website will look pretty silly if we can't call *******gy, one of the founder members, by his user name, *******gy, especially as he has been known as *******gy since he was about 11, I believe because he looked like the bloke in Scooby Doo, named *******gy.

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Firstly Sailor, its a well known fact that your team have in the past not given the opposition the drippings off their noses when it comes to postponing matches. You are ultra good at delivering that gamesmanship card when you know something is going to be in your favour. So lets face it we were up against it for getting a postponment before we even bothered to request one.

Secondly, I spoke to you on the Monday night we played our League Cup game. I explained to you that we would do well to get a team out and you told me to call you the next morning. We then posted on the site we may have three players the next morning.

Off the back of that, you then sent a PM but not to me. You mistakenly forwarded a PM to SITE TEAM quoting this and that ruling. Which broke all the boundaries of gamesmanship. Telling us about your problems in rescheduling the game in the weeks to come. Not once did you consider our position.

As a result, I got one player registered that day with Mark Halsey and played another player who had not hit a competitive ball all season.

But we fulfilled the fixture - so don't try and stick your two penniesworth in where it a'int welcome.

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wrong again power (grrr)
those in our team who weren't watching the darts were visiting me in hospital...

thanks for the flowers and grapes btw guys...

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You are entitled to you opinion of course Alex, but when you state your opinion on a matter as what you percieve to be a fact ie 'GAMESMANSHIP', you are way off the mark.

It was certainly not gamesmanship or seeking to get an advantage. Everything was done with the agreement of the two teams, and the league secretary. As I said before there was nothing to suggest the Prop wouldn't get a massive result, and heap pressure on us for next week. The fact that they didn't is down to them not us.

The match will be played before the next round of matches, and to be honest I dont see it has any relevance in how the league top and bottom pan out. We both have to win for differing reasons.

The worse thing was the whole Taylor thing really wasn't worth cancelling a game for anyway.

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Phil I totally agree with you we are going to try and beat the bloodhounds 10-0 I really can't see Alex's point.But hey ALex any chance to sh1t stir hey.

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I think Tony, *******gy and Andy have said all that I need to say. Sean emailed me about a month ago stating his desire to be at the darts evening, along with a few other Eagles regulars.

As far as I am concerned, the match needs to be played on or before 28th April, and that is exactly what will happen.

I'm constantly being reminded that this league is meant to be a 'friendly pub league', particularly when my team is apparently looking to claim games (a claim made a few weeks ago). You then try and do the decent thing (in this situation), and you still get slated!!

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Ego's, you REALLY are MISSING the point. You and the Hounds have contravened league playing rules. Both your sides had 3 players eligible to play the game and postponing the match because some fat Northern dart throwing pikey was in town is not a valid reason to cancel the match.

The timing of the match cancellation with 3 weeks left to go was insensitive to your opponents who are trying to win the title & stay in this division. Plus there appears NO valid reason to have cancelled this game.

Standing around smirking as your title opponents grind out a draw with the Pond sums it up.

I really hope as a result of this the Eagles lose the league and the Hounds get Division 2 pool next season. In fact, I would just love it if it happens. Just love it.

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Amazing you can see us sitting around smirking etc when you were in a different postcode.

1) We were watching the Prop game because we were interested in the result. Of course we are going to favour the Pond, anything else would be plain ridiculous.

2) Taylor stopped throwing darts and about 8.30. I could have stayed near the bar watching him sign autographs all night, but couldn't bear the excitement. I was told the exhibition would start at 9, not end then.... In hindsight we could have quite easily started the match at 9, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I am sure the team are really concerned that you dont want us to win. Face, bovvered etc. If the Prop or the Hotshots win then fair play to them as far as I am concerned. I know in my heart of hearts that we have not tried to manufacture anything.

I havent seen the consititution recently, does it actually say in their that you are not allowed to cancel games??? It would be suprising if the League Secretary didnt know this rule.

At least we know that in future we can run things by you for approval.

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i must say i dont think the match should have been canceled, it was kind of strange cing both hotshots and prop playing and half the eagles team watching both matching but that being said the it takes two to cancel a match and it will be played before next week so i can see both sides, but lets just get on with it whats done is done

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So if this was decided a month ago was it? - So why NEVER mention it? Why NEVER broadcast it? Why did neither of team's play the Sportsmanship Card and as a result give all the other teams in the title and relegation mix up the option to reschedule their games? Bascially it stinks.

Which ever way you or Sir Tony Nuttman tries to paint us all a glossy picture of this, it will be perceived now that both you and the Ego's have gained an unfair advantage at what is a crucial stage of the league. You both now know what is mathmatically required of you next week, it gives you both the opportunity to juggle your team selections, to bring in other players, to have one further week to prepare.

I now hear that your match next week is being played on TWO tables? Are you just plain mad Teach or have you let Sir Tony and his Egotistic team members get a rather large big one over on you? Sir Tony is called Sir Tony for a reason you know. I would hazard a good bet that your ticket to go and see Phil Taylor last night was COURTESY of Sir Tony? It is quite clear that Sir Tony has you in his pocket and on his underhand payroll.

Your inexperience in this matter may well cost your side their Div 1 status and do you know what, I hope it does. I hope your Phil Taylor signed poster was worth it.

Whatever the outcome of this, you have BOTH set a precedent in Croydon Pool, in so far as we now all have licence to cancel a game of pool when we like regardless of who it may effect.

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your getting boring now power (grrr)... your accusing us of moving dates to benefit our respective league positions
i would imagine everyone bar you knows this isn't the case.
we had a gentlemens agreement and our gentlemens league, simple as that. it wasn't hush hush or anything
i can only presume that this is sort of thing you would try and do to gain an advantage and that's why you think these things of everone else!

teach got my invite to the real power as i had to go to hospital!

what has 2 tables got to do with anything, it's merely a time issue, i'm sure we'd all rather play on 1!

as 5haggy said, yes we may have an advantage now, but if the prop had a big win then they'd have the advantage!

last year we postponed a match for the eden and that nearly cost us the league, how quick you forget a favour when it suits you!

with over 25 cdpl titles on the shelf the incentive to win fades a bit, the fact that if we win will make you unhappy has no doubt just given us an extra incentive to win, so thanks for that x

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I didn't need to see it - I have witnessed it many times before. But as I've heard about it, I guess it pi$$ed off a few people?

If you both sides cannot see for themselves that cancelling the match last night was plain stupid, and plain insensitive to your opponents then so be it.

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Alex - I'm not going to argue with you because you will simply twist everything I say anyway. You know that I was genuinely trying to do a team an 'honest' favour, and you know for a fact that I'm not the kind of person who deliberately tries to gain an advantage.

To suddenly wish relegation on my team because of this, is very very sad. :O::O:

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Ok, I know you're fishing Alex, so I'll have a little nibble . . Just to save confusion.

Yeah, it was about a month ago I'm guessing. . .
When we were second or maybe even third in the table, and there were still 4 teams in it.

First things first, we cancelled our match so we could attend a different sporting event.
You do this every year with the GG's.
Just because we watched said sporting event in our local area, and not at ascot makes no odds.
We simply done the same thing you've done several times in the past.

If Steve (Teach) had disagreed to reschedule, then no problems. The game would have had to have gone ahead. We would have worked it out somehow, but both teams were in agreeance.

I cleared it with Mark, assuring him it woukld be played before the next round of fixtures. It will.
If ANY person / team would like the result of the match before they break off on tuesday, then contact me, I will give you the honest result.

We told the Prop what we were doing, they were aware. They even contemplated moving thier own game at one stage, but they were fully aware of what we were doing.

They had the advantage in my eyes, as they were expected to knock a big score in. No disrespect intended to the Pond, but it was a top of the table vs. bottom of the table clash, so form would suggest Prop pulling a big win.
That's sport in a nutshell though. Unpredictable. Pond played a great match.

To say we were smirking is well wide of the mark though.

The only reason we were over there at all, was becasue Taylors exhibition was poor at best. . . .
I actually got pulled from the hat to play the man, along with 10 or so others, so at that stage, thought it was well worth the effort.

After playing just 3 legs of darts though, in about 10 mins, his spokesman announced "Phil will not be playing anymore, he will now be signing autographs"

ZZzz... No interest in watching the world dart champion sign his name.

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As you just plain THICK Andy? We all know you are a complete plank at the best of times but do I have to SPELL it out to you AGAIN?

Our reason to cancel the game last season was VALID. Why? Because we could not field a team. You had two options. 1) Claim the game 2) Rearrange it. The game was rearranged which YOU agreed to do. So drop all the amateur dramatics about nearly loosing the title as a result of it.

Now the question is this. Is postponing a match VALID when that postponement entails watching a darts exhibition when BOTH sides can field a team. The answer to that is clearly NO.

Now get back to polishing your trophies you sad fool.

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Just for the THIRD time in case you have missed this one Sean. We could not field a LEGAL line up last season. You could have claimed the win. Rearranging was sporting though.

You and the Hounds could of played a LEGAL line up. There appears no VALID reason to cancel the match and believe me there are plenty of people who are pi$$ed off about it.

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This seems like a lot of fuss over nothing. All I would say is what constitues a valid excuse for re-arranging? Many people cannot field a team because half their team are going to see Charlton play or Chelsea or whoever in the cup. What is the difference between that and watching a darts exhibition. As long as it is agreed by both team secs and Mark H there is no argumant to be had here. Although I am sure it will not stop one. Eagles knew before last night that they needed to win 7-3 plus to keep the pressure up so I doubt that they will lower their target to a 5-5 draw just because the prop have done the same. Pub League this stuff happens and if it was arranged a month in advance I can't exactly see Shaun, Paul, Hughie Tony and co sitting around a crystal ball on a cold winters night plotting this sh*t when their trophy cabinet is already overflowing.

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Like I said, this was agreed with the best of my intentions. I apologise to whomever I have upset.

I would also like to state that contrary to posts earlier, my team for the rescheduled game will be exactly the same team that I would have played last night. Alex is right - we were not short of players (thats not what I'm trying to claim).

Apologies once again - live and learn I guess. But please don't wish my team to be relegated because of this, this was a decision 'I' made with honest intentions. :)

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Berty, we all know how you like to stick your tongue up the Eagles backsides, and are secretly their number 1 fan, but don't get the wool pulled over your eyes here.

If we all went around cancelling matches because we had something else better to do, then this league will turn into a shambles. We have fixtures and dates for a reason and the ground rules need to be followed.

Just in case you are also MISSING the POINT. Both sides had a LEGAL line up. Normally when a game is cancelled that 99% NOT the case. Darts, football, visiting Andy Esgrove in hospital, whatever the reason. If you have enough players available and then those players parade themselves around in public - then there is a difference.

Plus nowhere on this site I can see the Eden, Pond, Legion, London, Prop, Hot Shots, and Patriots have been given the opportunity to POSTPONE their week 20 fixtures? Of course we didn't. Because all of us bar the Prop (and they only had 1 weeks notice) didn't even know about it. Its not just a top of the table issue here, its also about those teams in the relegation fight. Those teams also being informed what is going on. There has been a total lack of respect shown towards those sides.

Surely, with 3 games to play in a title and relegation battle that is tighter than your a$$ Berty, you can see how inappropriate it is to be even looking at cancelling a match. Especially, when you look at why this match was cancelled.

It will make the outcome of the title race a farce in my view. Well done Ego's.

Postponing will give both sides an advantage regardless of the scores last night. It gives them both the current picture in the league, that will benefit both. It also gives them an opportunity to decide which team they will select based on the outcome of the results last night. Danny Evans, I now hear, is now on route to play both matches next week. Funny that eh? Because I heard Danny wasn't at last nights darts exhibition.....

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Loving this debate......Oh I do love a mass debate :lol:

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I do love a bit of rimming as you can see in the quotes above.

Still maintain it is a load of fuss over nothing. You knew you had to win last night as did the slates against very winnable opposition. You both bottled it but the only other team in that mix is the bloodhounds who are in the same position as before they needed to avoid heavy defeat and they still do.

The bottom line is tho I am not arsed so keep it up as it is quite entertaining.

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I think the Power is an absolute disgrace. He comes across as a consummate professional and yet he only played three games, leaving seven players who would love to say they'd played him feeling gutted. His fee should have been withheld.

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the fixtures and dates differ depending on what links you get your info from!

power (grrr) your MISSING the POINT... you have accused us of moving the fixture to gain an advantage. fact is, that isn't the case!

there's been plenty of times when people have been missing and matches have carried on. on this occaision there were too many missing.
we originally re-scheduled for monday 21st, in your eyes giving the prop an advantage (albeit that'd never crossed our minds) but then out came the league cup fixtures (that differed to the original fixture list) and the qf was to be played on that same date, leaving us no option but to play after the props game.

both you(eden) and the prop didn't get your expected wins so if anyone is pi55ed off it would in reality be could they felt they'd missed their opportunity to gain more points.

power (grr) if you get promoted next season back to div1 i really hope you don't have to play us cheltenham week again!

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Alex,you are giving the appearance of becoming a demented lunatic. You have had matches postponed on many occasions when it suited yourselves !! You aren't in the least bit interested in the destiny of the championship !! You are fixated with your recent results and are rightly pooping yourself at the prospect of being relegated !! What will be,will be !! If you can't get yourselves out of the brown stuff,nobody will do it for you !! The Eagles and The Bloodhounds followed protocol and had the relevant permission to postpone their match. Perhaps you would like to be involved in any potential future postponement decisions. If so,might I suggest that you obtain a proposer and seconder and put yourself forward for a place on the committee. I feel certain that the second division will need a representative next winter season !!

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I didn't think any of your team mates actually liked you andy are you sure it wasn't one of them that actually put you in hospital in the first place lol

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Alex you are in danger of becoming the new dotcom how can you claim you couldn't field a full side because your team were all going racing , tell them not to go racing,if they are team players they will go some other of the 362 days a year there is racing. If this has been a big wind up you sanctimonious cnut then well done it worked. As for the record this is the last time I will ever write or talk to you again.Face to face you are all "hello mate" which is nice, on this forum you become super pr1ck seriously don't ever even try to talk to me again I will just ignore it. p.s you should put your own house in order (assumed names posting threatening messages)

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Sad very sad ........................................................

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because that pr1ck is accusing us of gamesmanship when it honestly was not the case. I like gamesmanship,Cloughie Fergie & Jose are three of my biggest heroes but grrrrr has called it wrong but hey ho won't have to converse with him again.

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At the risk of being pedantic it's more M54, M6, M42, M40, M25 but that aside I shall indeed be there for the double header against the Bloodhounds and must admit I'm quite looking forward to it. I'm in London for meetings this coming Tuesday and Wednesday and will be stopping over in Costa del Croydano so might as well chip in while I'm in the area and catch up with my pals.

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apart from the fact I didn't know you were coming down don't you think the pr1ck would be happy about it????????????????

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I'm not. It was a wind up. I only play in CDPL if it coincides with a funeral these days. I was told that there was finally a funny thread on here so I thought I'd tuck in but I guess it was asking too much. I'll leave you all to it once again.

Saxton - I see what you mean by the site slowing up a bit. I'm using the same infusion that you sent me and it hasn't affected anything so I don't think it's that. Also, the site's showing the default favicon and the site hit counter text in the bottom right hand corner needs changing as it's still in Turkish. Give me a shout on MSN if you need a hand.

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10 out of 10 for the ferguson rant sir tony you really have mastered it.... Can you also go bright red when your angry and throw football boots at your players, maybe that's how esgrove ended up in hospital... Come on the power LETS PLAY DARTS

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Barry I like you I think you are a great player but your Esgrove comment gave you away slightly

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i don't want any comments like "go back to your division" etc but just wondering, who are the plenty of people who are pi$$ed off? which teams apart from the obvious are actually bothered?! lol

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Shall we get back to the POINT Sir Tony. This is not about our postponed game, as that was nearly 12 months ago and was done so for a valid reason. Need I say it again - we did not have a team. This is about your cancelled match yesterday. This is also not purely about the Eagles. This is also not purely about the Eagles pursuit for the title. There is so much more to it. If, for one second you can take off the blinkers and look at other teams feelings you may just get what I am on about. I am entitled to raise this and will do so again if it effects the Eden. Your match versus the Hounds will have a say on other teams destiny's in this division. Likewise, it will also decide the destiny of the title. Personally, I am more interested in the relegation battle. Just try and see my point for one moment. On Monday night in the League Cup QF, you took out the Hounds 8-2 so of course my team were hoping you would play them 24 hours later. At 10pm on Tuesday - I find out you have cancelled your league clash with them. It later transpires that this has been agreed as far back as 4 weeks prior, around the time we were playing week 18. Surely, its not too much to ask that teams who could and will be effected by your match result are notified of this? Why was this never mentioned when it would effect so many of us. Its called courtesy and none has been shown. However, I do acknowledge that the Hounds had a duty to have made this cancellation public, its called common respect. Likewise the league should have posted something, giving other teams options as your cancelled game had nothing whatsoever to do with not being able to field a valid team but attending a darts exhibition.

Furthermore, I am fully entitled to question why it was cancelled. I am also entitled to question the timing of the cancellation. After all, we are 3 weeks away from the end of the season and lets face it you must have known this would open a can of worms. I am also fully entitled to query why you were permitted to cancel a match when you both had a valid number of players. After all, its hard not to notice what was going on at the top and bottom of the division and that by holding over a match the Eagles & Hounds may just be seen as gaining an advantage?

You know how this league works and something like that will be scrutinised. I am only really bothered about the Hounds situation and Teach has apologised to the other sides for not notifying them so fair play to him.

Which ever way we look at this, the Prop drawing, London & Eden loosing has done both your sides a favour. The Hounds now have a chance to get back a couple of players, and you get back Andy Esgrove. The Hounds now know that 4 will suit them, something they would not have known at 10pm on Tuesday had they been playing. You can't deny that it allows both your sides to work off our previous results.

As for the swearing and name calling. All you have done is what Dotcom did. I'll just let you embarrass yourself and of course I feel disappointed (because we go back along way) that you have to resort and lower yourself to that kind of level. I know you are passionate about the Eagles and I have always respected that. You are a respected and honourary member of Croydon pool history but drop the insults, as they will never rattle me. I thought you was bigger person than that fella.

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Fair point!! :D: Shag was in the swear filter have taken it out now

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Icon sorted

I have made a change to the name servers which may speed the site up

I tweaked the site ages ago when it was first mentioned that it was slower, and didnt get any more people saying that it was slow, someone said it had gone back to normal speed

What part of the site have you noticed is slower? I changed the hover box to only bring back the first 200 characters of the last post, before it was 400, if people still think the site is slower, I can take less, but I shouldnt need to touch that as you havent had any problems with the infusions I gave you

The name server change should take effect within the next 24 hours or so

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Patrick, as someone who captains a side that is regularly in the 'brown stuff', I'll leave the knowledge of how you deal with that down to you as I have never been in a similar position.

You have MISSED the POINT also. The POINT is, should this match had been allowed to be cancelled when both sides COULD field a side. Whether both sides agree to cancel is irrelevant. There appears no VALID reason for a cancellation. If I was on the committee the request would have been REVOKED.

If we all fancied a week off to do this, that or the other then the league would fall apart.

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Its that kind of thoughtless comment that will descend this league into a state of turmoil.

If nobody is bothered then I'll jog on. But remember this, the Eagles and Hounds have set a precedent. If you have a VALID number of players you are permitted to CANCEL a game when in the midst of the biggest title and relegation battle this league has seen since 1996.

Maybe we could rename it. Its called HOLIDAY pool. Take a week off for the price of two. This league is dying out for new sponsorship deals and I can see that the likes of Thomas Cook latching onto this recent scenario. Soon they will be offering weekly package deals. Hounds -v- Eagles. Game scheduled Tuesday 21st April 2009. Instead of playing it guys, we have a lovely week available, self catering in Magaluf. Tell you what fella's, we'll even throw (see what I did then!) in a couple of darts exhibitions with the likes of Bobby 'suntan' George and that Essex chav, Kevin 'Arthur Hewson' Painter.

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I am missing the Power's point slightly but if I was in a relegation battle I would want the Eagles to have Golden, Esgrove etc all available and I don't reckon getting the best team in croydon pool riled up in a delayed fixture is a particularly good idea either. I think we have all known the Eagles long enough to know that they play fairly and while they want to win this season they won't lose that much sleep this season if they don't. For me if teams decide to postpone fixtures, both teams agree and Mark H agrees then it is irrelevant of you can field a legal line up or not. Alex, I am sure you have signed people up specifically for a match when you may be short so what is the difference here? When you were at the GG's you could have signed up new players etc? Put simply, if you have postponed league games in the past I don't think you have a leg to stand on and in truth I think it makes no difference at all to the relegation battle or title challenge! I have taken your side over plenty of issues in the past but can't see what your problem is this time. In fact, I think it is unfair to accuse the Eagles of gamesmanship...

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I am guessing the Propeller will take that as you are not showing up then in Week 22......

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I now hear that your match next week is being played on TWO tables? Are you just plain mad Teach or have you let Sir Tony and his Egotistic team members get a rather large big one over on you? Sir Tony is called Sir Tony for a reason you know. I would hazard a good bet that your ticket to go and see Phil Taylor last night was COURTESY of Sir Tony? It is quite clear that Sir Tony has you in his pocket and on his when we like regardless of who it may effect.[/quote] seeing as I am never talking to this man again can somebody tell him that Sir Tony didn't cancel the game and if given the choice probably would have said Sir Tony didn't want the game cancelled, but as his team is full of darts groupies succoumbed to their wishes, can you also tell him that no one in our team thought we were trying to gain an unfair advantage, can you also tell him that when trying to win the league we will not try and drop points and can you please reiterate what a fcuking hippocrite this cocck who begged me to rearrange a game at the end of last year is.

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can somebody also tell this pr1ck that we are top of the first division with our second best player Danny only playing two frames this year so if he turns up great and if he doesn't great

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Sorted :saxton:

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Today I have been very emotional as the Power has obviously taken the p1ss,if any body in the league has been upset by my comments I appologize. I did say I would never talk to him again but bearing in mind he is called the power I will give him one last chance Selhurst boxing club 3 rounds for the nspcc any day in June. Alex fancy it.

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Careful Alex, it is easy to get lured in.

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Do you know what, I had to read this post 10 times to finally realise Longshanks was not talking about me! I'd never leave anyone feeling gutted. Well, apart from Berty of course.

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so do you fancy the boxing match ( i am older than you and completely unfit) we could raise a fortune for charity as every body in the league would like to see both of us bashed up. And no hard feelings afterwards

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Don't chicken out on me Alex we could both get fit and raise a fortune for underprivlidged kids its only a bit of fun.

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this rate the power (grrr) will end up in the hospital bed next to me...!

power (grrr) can you actually read properly?
we all understand the point your trying to make but you obviously don't seem to understand the situation. so read this sumary once more;

because of the darts our league match on the 21st we scheduled for monday 20th (which would in your opinion given you and the prop an advantage)
get it so far?

i then arranged my operation for the 21st and i know others then made plans themselves for the 21st.
still with us at this point

then the league cup qf date was changed from the 27th to the 20th and hence we then had to re-schedule the league match sometime before next tuesday.
penny dropped yet?

your accusing us of bad sportmanship which clearly isn't the case.

so again in summary your wrong

unless your really fcuking stupid you would have now realised this but i can understand you not wanting to admit it and appologise online in front of everyone.

i know you will post something as you always want to have the last say (don't we all) but please read my post and think about it first.

if you still can't understand what went on then please get in touch with me an i'd be more than happy to meet up with you and discuss it

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I PREDICT A RIOT HAVE IT NOW TONY THIS BOXING MATCH WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER WITH JUST PLAIN OLD KNUCKLES MATE . (I USED A FULL STOP )

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Anyone who has to go to hospital, let alone spend time there because their thumb hurts is far too hard for me and I couldn't possibly cramp their style by sharing a bed next to them.

In response to your post Andy:

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you know ONE MONTH ago that you the match was going to be cancelled. In fact, didn't Teach confirm that in a previous post. I would have thought between you could have found a date within 30 days of the 21st April. Either that, or why not cancel the QF match? Not quite sure where you are coming from with the fixture schedule. My intial fixture schedule sent to me on 20th September 2008 by Mark, states the QF is to be held on 20/4/09.

And where in anyone of my posts have I said it is 'bad sportsmanship'? Clearly these are your words, and we can only presume these are your thoughts!

The problem with you Andy, is that you are such a numpty it is bearly worth the effort having a sensible democratic conversation with you because its always about YOU. You, you, you, you, you.....

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Thanks for the comments tony , I still have a lot to learn as a player my consistency for starters... So fergusson against the power in a free for all brawl.... Weapons ??? I think furgusson should be allowed a fold up chair ripped out from old tradford:chair: and the power? a parris wrapped in barbed wire...:threaten:
You wana ring the bell???? DING DING

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I see htelford has logged on at some point I wonder what view he has on all of this

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Esgrove has your recent operation on your hand sorted out your chicken wing cue action???????:chicken:

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The first sentence in my post was equivocal.

At least this thread has got some interest back in the site. The match is now being played at 7.00 next Tuesday in Thornton Heath. The Egos then have to play the Unpredictables at Rileys. They will be pushed for time even on two tables, so this definitely doesn't give them any advantage over the Prop.

Alex has perhaps raised a valid point about whether the reason for the cancellation was justifiable but he could have said that in one sentence instead of 363. But the two teams agreed it and so did Mark Halsey, so that's that.

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Nuttmeg, sounds interesting. I do fancy a couple of warm up bouts first. Was thinking about Andy Esgrove for starters, when his thumb is better of course. Then maybe Dotcom.

I'll speak to my old management team when I was boxing at England schoolboy international level and see if they can get me back into shape at me old club, Repton Boys Club in the East End. We'll see what we can sort out.

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don't make me laugh power (grrr) i've only got one hand at the moment and i'd still knock you out with the other one...

it wasn't so long ago when you ran off crying when a ginger midget headbutted your chin was it now... bless

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this is the fixture list that all 5 divisions got; http://www.croydo...relist.pdf
one month ago we didn't know about the league cup qf date change that only came about a week before.
we all thought we had a spare monday on the 20th and it made sense to do it a day before the intended league match so it was planned then!

how thick are you? your very first post on the subject said

"I have one word for it.

GAMESMANSHIP."

gamesmanship/sportsmanship same difference!

now your starting to insult me just cos you haven't got the guts to admit your off the mark this time... i thought you were better than that, i appologise for being wrong, sorry

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I don't think anyone has questioned whether the two teams agreed it, or whether Mark rubber stamped it. What Mark agrees is down to him and its done and dusted.

The point I think that had to be made was this. The reason and timing of the cancellation with the season on a knife edge at the top and bottom was wrong. The lack of or no notice to the other it would effect was wrong. We have rules for a reason.

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We read the fixtures from this sheet Alex:

http://www.croydonpool.com/winter/div1fixturelist.pdf

Also sent out in September 2008. . . . . .
I hope you can see where the confusion lay.

Saw no reason to double check it vs. The Master Fixture list, as assumed it was correct (As one would)
Very rare there is a mistake like this if at all in the CDPL, as it's quite simply, superbly run.
This was a rare exception though.

So. . . . We were all set to go ahead with Monday 21st for our league match, when the Quarter Final Fixtures were released, citing Monday 21st as the date. . . Naturally we were all taken aback, and the conflict in fixture dates has since come to light.

We got our heads together Monday Night when we played eachother in said fixture (1/4 Final) and we have arranged a date to play before the next set of fixtures.

I'm not going to repeat various points made in this thread, as nothing seems to be going anywhere. Your entitled to your opinion Alex, fine with me, all I can do is assure you that there is no gamesmanship involved, not one bit, just sheer coincidence.

Had results gone a different way on tueday night, would so much fuss still be made? I doubt it.

But the fact remains, it will change nothing in the mindset of the two teams. The game will be played exactly as it would have been, with both teams needing each and every frame. Nothing will be easier, no-one will be settling for any pre determined score.

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Oh my god this is brilliant....Alex you used the word GAMESMANSHIP, which in the eyes of the casual observer is the same thing as bad sportmanship. You have said I have got my tongue up the Eagles arse and to be honest I cannot deny backing their corner as time and time again they have proven themselves to be the best sports in the league. I have never seen them bitch when they lose, always high in praise for teams who beat them etc etc. I will always back the corner of the person or team who I think has been wronged regardless of who they are. You may recall many moons ago at the AGM which discussed the incident between you and Hughie I stood up and said that violence had no place in a pool league and backed your corner and I stand by that. In this case however your point although looks like a valid one isn't because firstly I fully believe the intentions were honourable and secondly they did this through the correct channels.

If you can maybe find these many people who are bothered by this I would be interested but I am somehow doubting this will happen.

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brilliant I have never boxed before so that makes me the underdog lets arrange a date so we can start selling tickets.

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Esgrove I would choose your words very wisely I hear your treading on thin ice my pedigree chum. Alex isn't the choir boy your small brain is portraying him as, in fact he's done some proper time inside I believe. And believe me his bite is definately worse than his bite literally, he can be a *******1ing animal if you set him off and believe threatning to knock him out is not a good move esgrove.
And if I'm mistaken esgrove wasn't it a Ginger midget that threw you all round suzies and then put you in a headlock and kicked you outside. I hear your walk home that night was very uncomfortable with sh1t running down your inside legs Where's the pampers esgrove????

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Rescheduling of a match at this point in the season is a strange decision on both parts (1 for title aspirations & 1 for relegation) all the points being made about both teams & Mark H agreeing etc is also a bit odd in the circumstances ? I am sure that the League has these rules in place for a valid reason not that 2/3 players like watching fat blokes throwing arrows?..Each to there own, but then to watch as your nearest rivals struggle is a bit off I would say !!

If at this point you want to go on about us re-arranging last years fixture ag the egos for the reason that all bar 2 of us were away that week at Cheltenham for a week of racing, then go for it??But that is the only time I can remember us not being able to fulfil a fixture & requesting for a valid reason to postpone (I of course may be wrong). Then to read it almost cost you the league ? don?t make me laugh, how the fcuk can a talent-less team like the Eden (Sure that was the quote wiggy) possibly have a bearing on whether the mighty ego?s win the division or not. Maybe we should have tried to sign up more players but could not do so & luckily for us the ego's did re-arrange the match - thanks for that & sorry it almost cost you another pot to polish, but I think the point being made is a different 1 - you COULD get the players in to play & chose not to - END OF

This year we had a serious shortage ag a few teams & have fulfilled the fixtures, as a result of that is why we seem to currently be in a relegation scrap - We only have ourselves to blame but am sure we all would like to play the same night at the same time so no advantage/disadvantage can be gained - whichever way it is painted I would rather have all the scores in prior to cueing up, just unfair

And as for the Hugh Telford incident wiggy - don't be a tw@t in bringing that to the table as we all know it was an incident that was dealt with pathetically by the league & probably by a few of your team members on the night & then the aftermath?..As big & clever as it was - in your opinion otherwise why mention it, really I guess Alex walking away rather than getting into a scrap shows all I need to know about our team Capt. & yours & beleive me it could have turned sour if he hadn't of - This was not something that we have ever brought up since that day - I also believe that they have both put this episode behind them, only for you to drag it up for some unknown reason?.I realise down the years for varying reasons our teams have not seen eye to eye, but bringing up an obvious sore point is pathetic in trying to earn some sort of upper hand in this unrelated topic - I guess we all know that Hugh T was lucky to still be allowed to play in the league - but he was that was the decision made & we stick by it, but don't for 1 moment think we are happy about it (But we don't harp on about it years after the event) - It seemed then & seems now it was very much an old boys club decision on how it was dealt with

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The very thin line that there was on this site between banter and abuse, i believe has just been crossed.

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i agree. i never insulted anyone and am just pi55ed off with being accused of gamesmanship. all of a sudden the eden think it's ok to insult me!

qwerty i haven't threatened anyone, i'm just pointing out that anyone can give it the bigun, no doubt you've got a black belt in karaoke and are 1st down in nintendo...!!!

as for the other things you say, you've been watching too much jackanory me ol' mukka

truey and co, your still going on about this fixture change, it's been clearly stated what happened.
whether it is right or wrong to do so do you honestly think we've changed it for a bit of gamemanship?

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WIGGY DO U STILL PULL YOURSELF ABOUT:nerner:

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As much as this has kept me entertained, could we please put this to bed now....I really must get some work done today! :handshake: :hugs:

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did I imagine the post in which you said something along the lines of knocking out alex with your other hand or once again did your asshole go and you removed it all will be revealed on Tuesday I suppose. Good luck mate.
Who's got the huggies for esgrove he's had another accident:lol:

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i thought you'd make a comment once you got in from school.
obviously reading wasn't one of you lessons today...

if you look back at the posts you see -

the power (grrr) wrote;
I do fancy a couple of warm up bouts first. Was thinking about Andy Esgrove for starters

to which i replied;
don't make me laugh power (grrr) i've only got one hand at the moment and i'd still knock you out with the other one...

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JUST SUCK THERE EYES OUT

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Sorry esgrove I stand corrected I just assumed your asshole went because it goes on such a regular basis. Maybe you have got some bottle then, all will be revealed on Tuesday

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I see its your birthday today Berty. Many happy returns.

Definition of Gamesmanship:
Art of winning games by psychological means....

Definition of Bad Sportsmanship:
A team or person who behaves unfairly and ungenerously....

Now go back and read my initial posts regarding Sir Tony. He is called Sir Tony because we rate him in this league as Croydon pool's equivalent of Sir Alex Ferguson, who as we all know is a master of playing and delivering the odd gamesmanship card here and there. Now read the Oxford Dictionary's definition of gamesmanship.

I have never said it was bad sportsmanship. It is the likes of Esgrove who has put those words into his own mouth and thats what he wants you all to believe I am implying. I stand by what I said regarding gamesmanship, and psychologically I think the Ego's have now got the upperhand on their title opponents from postponing Tuesday's game. But as I said from an Eden point of view we are more concerned what effect it will have on the Hounds.

The question is did the Ego's cancel the game to gain the psycological edge? Spud, Sir Tony and Shaggy have said that was not the intention. Thats good enough for me.

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After reading some of the comments on this thread over the last few days,apparently several Pond players have injured themselves through excessive laughing . I feel that the most prudent way forward would be to seek a postponement of next week's match against the Eden. I wonder if anybody would mind !! :o

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Me and Bronson are very similar. A chip off the old block. Spent many a night behind the doors at her Majesty's pleasure chatting about the 'Esgrove's' of this world.

I normally like to nibble on 'Officers of the Peace', but as a substitute I'm sure Andy's sore thumb is just what the Bronson ordered.....

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Christ this is amusing. Id love to win league, especially with Jak not playing, Dan not paying, and half of Kyle and Andy not playing.

It wont kill me if we dont though.

Good luck to everyone else in the league. I hope everyone get what they deserve.

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JUST HAVE A RIOT AND BE DONE WITH IT

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flash you said it that line has been crossed

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power that is correct fella a good smack up with a screw is much more fun than andy small fry esgrove,how on earth is he going to knock you out if one hand is already out of use and the other wrapped round his *******. andy listen mate correct me if im wrong but did i not witness a lovely little ginger fella give you a beautiful head butt oh yes add to that when you upset another person that you classed as a mate as on that front i recall that you i and other parties were at crystals and you bumped into the person that you upset and when he fronted you you were on your knees cacking it son.i think you got away with that then because the aggrieved man is a gentleman.
i think that you power should do what we done behind the door mate take him in the recess hot water with added sugar/pp9 heavy duty and finsh it once and for all,

ding ding come out fighting

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Can it be a tag team, because Andy is a very good mate of mine, and i'll never let any harm come to mates!

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Andy, Shame... How could you make this comment.? Bring this *******up, to support your argument... Its a know fact, that you are a, deluded key board warrior... This was put to bed a long time ago... Both The Eden & The Eagles. played out of The Farley at the same time... Again Shame... Shame... Shame...
I would bet The Power will want a quiet word in your ear, Well maybe not too quiet...
I might be wrong but, my guess is Hughie wont be to amused about your comments...

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Dave, this isn't a witch hunt towards Andy!

Everyone made their opinion,which they are entitled to, let's leave it there

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SUCK HIS EYES OUT

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Feck, i make one comment, which i am surprised was not pointed out much earlier in this thread and, its a "witch hunt"... :no: :no: :no:
Old saying Harry... You chose to post... You chose what you post...

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All i'm saying is that this started as an opinion on a postponed match. which as far as i'm concerned was fine as all parties agreed to it (just my opinion) Now it is turning into a slagging off thread, and getting personal......Lets get back to talking about pool :)

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god dam it harry your so boring....

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Eden 4-6 Legion

Graet win against our old enimies.

Anyone know the Bloodhounds v Eagles score ?

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