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This match between Sarah Long (Suzy's Floozies) and Donna Evans (Goodfellas), which is due to be played tonight, may now not be happening due to a complaint raised by Adam Hewson, the sponsor, that one of the semi-finals wasn't played at the specified venue, which 'apparently' makes the final void until that semi is replayed at The Farley.

Basically, Donna and Stacey Gough played their semi at Riley's Imperial Way for the following reasons:

1. Stacey couldn't make the original semi-final date so asked to postpone if possible. Mark Halsey agreed this could be done, or Donna could claim the match (which she wouldn't do)
2. The date of the final had been changed, bringing it a week closer, as Sarah couldn't make that one, leaving Donna and Stacey only one week to re-arrange the semi.
3. The ONLY date that Stacey could do in that week was the Monday.
4. The Monday in question was the same night as the KO Cup Final at the Farley, making that venue impossible. This left the only solution, other than claiming the match, being to play at another venue, which they did.
5. A fuss was made, by the aforementioned sponsor, and the semi was scheduled to be replayed on 7th November, which Stacey couldn't do, so she gave Donna the match. Due to the timescale, and the final being tonight, Donna had no choice.

It has now been intimated, by Adam, that there is some kind of conspiracy going on as Donna was 'given' the semi (albeit after playing it once, as already explained). He is now ordering that that semi be re-played before the final can go ahead. Donna received a message to this effect LAST NIGHT. WHy couldn't this issue be raised earlier, before both players had arranged baby-sitters etc ?!!

Does this now mean that as Donna played 3 matches to get to this final, whereas Sarah only played one (having been given BYEs along the way by previous opponents before her semi-final), does Sarah also have to re-play those games which she was 'given' too? If so, that is ridiculous. If not, then that would be a conspiracy on the part of the sponsor who is dictating the running of a competition.
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As sponser I would suspect that Adam has a right to continue or not with his sponsership, but has absolutely no right to determine anything else to do with how the competition is run.

Clearly the league dont want to lose sponsers and the rules do dictate that semis are played at a pre designated venue.

What however can be done if an alternative semi final date is arranged and the person who has already lost doesnt turn up. Oh a bye is awarded, and the final can go ahead anyway.

Comment sense should prevail, and the final should get played.

Bloody women. :wink:

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Spot on Shaggy. The game at Rileys was made null and void because the semi was re-arranged to be played at the Farley. Therefore technically the semi did take place at the right venue but was conceded. It may well be that she conceded it because she had already lost fair and square, certainly if I were in that situation I wouldn't try to win.

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Chuck some mud over em!

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I need to correct you on a couple of facts



Not 100% true as I explained in an earlier thread. The final was originally scheduled for 17 October and without knowing I'd even be in the final I booked to take my kids away for a few days during half term the following week. Unfortunately a scheduling error meant that the Doubles Final was omitted pushing the Ladies Final back to the 24th which I obviously couldn't do. Yes the first date for the final was moved to accommodate me but only because it had already been moved previously which is hardly my fault!

I'm not an ogre if anyone had approached me and said there was a problem getting the semi played in time of course I'd have agreed to a postponement of the re-arranged final.



I have only been given one game by my former team mate Natalie who no longer plays in Croydon League. I made every effort to get her to play it. Who are the other opponents you are referring to?

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I'm not getting drawn on the rest of it. I just want to play pool!!

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Sarah, there is nothing in this aimed at you, it's the stupidity of one person demanding a reply on one match and not others, then accusing them of some sort of conspiracy.
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And for your points raised, if I've got any details wrong, I apologise, I may have my wires crossed on some of the finer details, as it's all a bit confusing, but I'm sure Donna will clarify it all when she come online.

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This is yet another example of why women should not play pool

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Thanks for your ever-helpful input, Dan. I was waiting for that one.

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Mark, I appreciate your comments. Thank you.

Sass, I think Mark has just got confused with what I told him a while ago about me having played 3 matches to get to the Final and you only 1. You were given a game by Natalie Barnes for whatever reason, I have been given a game by Stacey Gough as she couldn't make the date.


Firstly, the Final WAS originally proposed to be moved forward a week from the 24th to the 17th by Sass which meant Stacey and I thought we only had a week to rearrange the match I could have claimed. Then I was told by Mark Halsey that we had more time, so I told Stacey.

Stacey could ONLY MAKE the 10th October out of all of the days available, and this was the date of the KO Cup and we couldn't make the game earlier in the evening, so instead of claiming it, we played at another venue.

Unfortunately, some people didn't quite understand that if the match hadn't been played on that date, I'd have had to claim it anyway, as Stacey was unavailable to play on any other occasion, so no Semi-Final match would have taken place in Thornton Heath anyway.

So . . . complaints were made. And a new date, November 7th, was given for the Semi-Final. Stacey said although she wasn't keen on the idea of playing a match she'd already lost again, she was unable to play on that date as it was her friends birthday and she had plans, so Bob Todd was made aware of this.

Now, the night before the Final, Adam Hewson rings Bob Todd, telling him that 'Something is going on and I'm part of a conspiracy to fraudulently obtain a place in the Ladies singles final.'

:elol:


With all due respect, I don't need to play. I've already told Sass she can have it if she wants it!



Can't be bothered with all this!!! :lol:

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Chuck some mud over em!:razz:

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Spudangles has a serious fixation with mud. :strip:

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Can you please get the summer ladies singles final played as quickly as possible. It's going to snow soon !!

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As the ladies singles is still in its infancy stage (in comparison to others CDPL Comps) it should be played otherwise it breeds the question. If a competition has a default winner in the final, what is the point of the comp in the first place?

How the blinking blimey hell, can a competition with 8 people be so cotton picking difficult.

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Exactly Shaggy. Apparently Mr Hewsons £50 sponsorship means he can make someone play when they're not able to!! :lol:

And apparently, Sass spoke to Adam last night and he didn't say a word of this to her . . . How strange. :crazy:

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As we are now into the 5th week of the winter season and still have not managed to play all of this summers finals , How are we going to fit in all of the extra plate finals at the end of this season. Will the committee be able to sort out the finals dates to keep everybody happy. It's going to a very hectic time for all concerned I think the plate comps. are a mistake.

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And the winner of the most random post on a particular thread IS . . . :lol:


Sass beat me tonight 3-2 in the Ladies Final. She played really well (but I have to say this as she's standing behind me . . . )

Hang on - she's gone . . . She was SHIT . . .



Oops, she's back . . .



ANYWAY . . . Sarah played some of the nicest pool i've seen her play in a while so I think the right player won.

Well done you BASTARD!!!!:worship:

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Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Cheers Lils.

Home now so I can say what I like but just want to say it was an enjoyable match played in good spirit and fitting it went to the deciding frame. It could very easily have been the other way round.

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Yeah - I could have smashed the black around the table and fluked it in some random pocket too!!! :nerner:

You played good. The right person won - well done for successfully defending your title! :dance:

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Well done Sarah, congratulations and all that stuff, welcome to Croydons Hall of Fame, plus my commisserations to Goodfella Donna, though we'll always remain honoured you won it in your Eden days.....

As for Fat Dart's initial post and every other silly buggers little dig and outburst - I don't get it? If the sponsor pays to sponsor an event and its designated at a particular venue then all matches should take place there.

Should Adam as sponsor have tried to get the semi replayed?
I previously put ?1000 of my own money up in Croydon (5 years ago) for an end of season ranking event, and let me tell you as the ''sponsor'' I would expect as the financial provider to have all the rights to decide if that event would take place on the moon or in my own back room. If its agreed matches take place at a certain venue then thats it. It a'int a players choice on venue, time, date and whatever other excuse they look for, they are in it for the money/trophy and the sponsor takes the business that comes from the investment he/she has made in the event....

Anyway, the morale of this thread now IS....

''The final was rightfully played at THEATRE OF DREAMS''

:bow:

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I have never won the Summer League singles Alex - I won the Winter League singles.



Alex, I love you, but PLEASE read the post in its entirety before making a comment like that or you end up looking foolish...

The semi-final WAS due to be replayed (even though if i'd have claimed it as I could have, it wouldn't have BEEN played which is what these dumbarsed people can't understand) on November 7th, but Stacey couldn't make it. The sponsor of the competition tried to say that this wasn't satisfactory and wanted A THIRD DATE to be made to accomodate.

So not only did I agree to rearrange the original Semi-Final date, I turned up to a second, won it, got told I had to play it again even though I should have claimed it as we COULDN'T play it at the sponsors pub of choice, my opponent couldn't make that date, so I'm meant to KEEP rearranging it, am I?!!!!

We didn't even get a choice of tables at this venue last night, seeing as they had their singles league running whilst the Final was being played. Apparently, they were told by SOMEONE that the Final wasn't going ahead . . .

. . . Wonder who told them that? Certainly wasn't the C&DPL Committee.

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Apologies, quite right, you did win the winter version. Well done then to Sass for back to back summer titles.

I've re-read the opening post from Fat-Dart, even though its not mentioned I am now presuming you had it okayed by the league to play the match elsewhere? If not, I guess then it shoud have been voided in the first place though not ideal. My understanding is the rights for the semi's and finals always rests with league sponsors to provide the neutral venue, hence the Farley in this case?

I still think that the sponsors should have an input if they really want one as to where the matches are played though probably Suzy's and the Farley are the only two that are set up to host them. I am surprised though that it appears Adam has got so deeply involved in this. From reading Fart Dart's and your post it seems he has really got his back up over this and as Adam is not a member of the site we cannot have his feedback.

Anyway this has got bugger all to do with me so I'm keeping out of whatever is going on between the parties concerned.

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Alex - you've missed the point AGAIN!!

We played our match at Rileys as it was the only place to play. Now if i'd simply claimed the match, all would have been fine, but I told Stacey i'd rather play than claim a match. BUT THE FARLEY WAS UNAVAILABLE THAT EVENING. Because we played it there, we were told our match was void and we had to play it at the Farley and were given an alternate date which Stacey couldn't make.

The argument isn't that the match was voided - the argument lies in the fact that the sponsor tried to make the rescheduled Semi-Final be played again, because the other player couldn't make that date. But the bottom line is this - if a player is unavailable on a date set by the Committee, then it's tough. I agreed to postpone the original semi-final, then agreed to play it on the only date Satacey could make (and the sponsors venue was unavailable) yet that wasn't good enough, so Mark Halsey gave us ANOTHER date to play which Stacey couldn't make.

Just how many times was I meant to rearrange and what makes the sponsor believe that their money entitles them to be involved in the running of the competition?

Anyway, if this is still too much for you to comprehend Mr Barnetson, then I shall do my best to explain when I see you next.

(I'll speak slowly and bring a crayon . . . :wall::razz: )

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Congratulations Sass, unlucky Donna.

I wish I could have come down to watch but The Bill is on the TV on Wednesday nights :)